[MacMattico]

Well, I live WAY upstate, 6 hours to drive to NY, which I do a couple times a year. There are a few things I like to do in NY like take in a Yankee game. Of course I play the theme song from Deliverance over and over again on my way to the big city, just like the guy said. But if truth be told almost every moron, loser and reject I've come across usually ends up telling me how they are moving to NYC to make it big. It's a big city I'm sure there are good people somewhere within it's confines. But I get a little sick of people putting upstaters down to make themselves feel superior. For years we in upstate have subsidized their horrible school system and watched them reap the benefits of the resources of upstate.

[katana]

When I lived Upstate there was a popular bumper sticker: Let the Apple Rot!. There has long been some confusion on the part of many in Manhattan, especially the affluent and aloof of the city, that the nation somehow needs them. Maybe it really is time that they declared themselves a sovereign island country, sort of a Singapore without the cleanliness and civic discipline.