Posted on 10/14/2010 5:38:04 PM PDT by Nachum
President Barack Obama declared today that the dont ask, dont tell policy on gays in the military will end and it will end on my watch, even as his Justice Department was appealing a judges ruling that would have allowed homosexuals to serve openly in the military.
Speaking at a town hall meeting put on jointly by BET, MTV and Country Music Television, Obama also said a persons sexuality is not a choice.
I dont profess to be an expert this is a lay persons opinion but I dont think its a choice, he said. People are born with a certain makeup. We are all children of God. We dont make determinations about who we love.
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I was heterosexual from my earliest memories...I remember crushes on little boys before I even knew there was such a thing as sex. I figured my sexuality was hard wired into who I am and this is what the gay guys I’ve known have said - they always knew. And, the gays I’ve known were not molested, my best friend has a gay son who wanted to play with dolls as a child. I’ve known women who were molested and went on to have fulfilling heterosexual lives. I’d like to see a study on how many of gays were molested compared to straights.
Why do you think your heterosexuality is something you’re born with but their homosexuality is not? You only have to look at some of them to know they’re different...way different. I’ve been in the interior design world and the horse show world and know something more than the average person about this. I’ve also been in the construction business and there are almost no gays in that business.
What I can’t stand is the militant gay agenda....they ought to leave the rest of us alone, including and especially our kids. Don’t think this ought to be taught in schools at all. And I went to gay pride parades, trying to be open minded, until I realized the whole thing was disgusting - I didn’t belong there.
That being said - I will always believe that gays are as hardwired to their sexuality as I am to my heterosexuality.
So you don’t believe the Bible regarding how God views homosexuality? Or is it that you just don’t believe the Bible? If homosexuality was hardwired, then do you realize what that would mean regarding how God sees it as an abomination?
You are free to believe whatever you want.
But scientists who were hoping to find biological evidence for homosexuality could not find any at all, and they have pretty much given up.
Many studies have been done to find the causes of homosexuality, and they are pretty much known and accepted, even by many homosexuals themselves.
If homosexuals were born that way, none would be able to change. But thousands have. And that is the truth.
Some of these people are vastly different from real guys...their looks, their voices, their behavior, and then there are those who are undetectable - you'd never guess.
I always figured God makes adjustments for those who love him. Who am I to say? Not for me to judge. I can only go by what I see. I have to imagine that God understands this quite well.
There’s almost nothing more fun that getting a leftist backed into a corner of their own making. Emotion driven idiots.
Homosexuality is an abnormal behavior. Are people born thieves? Liars? Bad drivers? Smokers? Jay-walkers? Speeders? Cheaters? Thrifty? Gluttons?
I always feel sorry for people who have bought this secular lie. We absolutely are to judge. If we aren't then how can you say Mother Theresa is different than Bin Laden?
If you will always believe that homosexuals are born that way, does that mean you don’t want to be open just in case you are wrong? Or you want to cling to your beliefs?
I remember being one year old, 1 yr 8 months, and many memories before 5 and 6. I had no identity of sexuality whatsoever. I didn’t think about marriage, opposite sex attraction, nothing. I was just a baby and kid - I knew obviously that I was a little girl but had no attractions to boys at those young ages. I do remember being attracted to little red haired Richard when I was in fourth grade when I was 8 or 9. That is about the age that kids may get a very innocent “crush” on another kid.
But toddlers and very young children are not aware of sexuality in that sense unless they are sexualized too young - mostly by being molested or exposed to sexually explicit material by sick people.
People usually do not have such young memories as I do, but if they do, I seriously doubt that one year olds and toddlers have any sexual attraction to anyone or even the innocent “crushes” that 8 and 9 year olds have.
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Source please...the CDC lists heart disease first at 26% followed by cancer at 24% then a list of eight other causes of death for black men. AIDS isn't even on the top ten list.
So, where did you get your facts?
Well that’s fine.
I’m not a pro-homo person like some. I just know that gays are there, some are really nice people, and I’ve got sort of a live and let live attitude as long as they keep their hands off our kids.
Well said!
There's all sorts of compulsions and behaviors that aren't chosen, or chosen by default. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.
I agree homosexuality is abnormal, thank God, otherwise we’d die out.
But if homosexuality is their only abnormality then why lump them in with thieves, etc.? Those things are choices and I think in most cases one’s sexuality is not a choice.
Many gays I’ve known would rather be straight.
Very good point.
From an article with video posted on FR but I'm not searching for it tonight. I'm going to bed.
Well, it’s important enough to you to argue that they are born that way.
And since the homosexual agenda has been very busy destroying freedom of speech, religion and association, infiltrating schools and recruiting kids, forcing marriage in states that have it by Judges Gone Wild, and so on, it’s not a question of hoping they will keep their hands off kids.
It’s way beyond that. Yesterday there was an article about some couple (not sure if man/woman or what) with a toddler who they claim is “transgendered” - a girl they are going to raise as a boy. That crap goes on more and more. The day after a MA judge enforced same sex marriage on the state, the head of the MA Education department made an edict that all public schools had to teach that homosexuality is just as good as heterosexuality. Which led to bringing 14 year old kids to classes in which they were taught homosexual acts such as fisting. And so on and so forth.
The problem with a live and let live attitude is that the militant homosexual agenda pushers do not have that attitude, they are extremely aggressive, and as long as people have your attitude they will continue gaining ground. They are already busily trying to destroy the Boy Scouts, have mandated that no judge in CA can sit on any case involving homosexuality or a homosexual if he is a member of the Boy Scouts of America, that foster parents must under “sensitivity classes” about homosexuality” etc. Most states now allow homosexuals to be foster parents and/or adopt children. This is absolute insanity since 1/3 or more of all child molestation is by a member of the same sex - and they’re at most 2% of the population.
“Live and let live” is surrender to the militant homosexual agenda.
That’s a normal stage. Children and adolescents experience crushes and attractions. It’s a phase, not an identity.
They are both behaviors.
Those things are choices and I think in most cases ones sexuality is not a choice.
Yes it is. So is pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia.....
immutible traits have to be accomodated
choices do not.
this is why homosexuals push the lie of born that way. The homosexuals keep creating fake gean claims or womb nonsense.
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