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Jerry Brown: Mammograms not effective
Politico ^ | 10/9/2010 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 10/10/2010 8:21:55 AM PDT by Qbert

Smelling blood after a Jerry Brown associate used the word “whore” in connection with Meg Whitman’s campaign strategy, Republican sources have provided a 15-year-old video of the Democratic gubernatorial hopeful dismissing mammograms in an old interview.

The trip to the vault comes as Brown’s camp has been on defense after The Los Angeles Times reported on a conversation between him and an associate, inadvertently left on a police union official’s voice mail, in which he discussed Whitman and the unions and suggested she’ll cut a deal over pensions. Another person is heard on the recording saying, “What about calling her a whore?”

Brown’s campaign manager apologized, but it comes as Whitman is making an aggressive play for the female vote, who some of her supporters see as turned off by the “whore” flap.

Brown, California's Democratic governor from 1975 to 1983 and the current state attorney general, is seeking to return to his old job. Whitman, former chief executive of eBay, is the GOP nominee.

The comment about mammograms came during an episode of “Firing Line” in October 1995, when Brown was a guest on the William F. Buckley Jr. show. He sat alongside feminist and commentator Susan Estrich during a discussion about government regulations that dealt with the death of the Clinton administration health reform proposal.

Estrich discussed the component of the plan that had dealt with mammograms. "Can we get off of mammograms?” Brown interjected. “I mean, first of all, if you read the Lancet Magazine in July, there's no statistical evidence that mammograms help anyone at any age. “So it's July 1995, Lancet Magazine. Okay? It's there. Now I don't want to argue that case,” he added, as Estrich started to object. “ I just want to throw it out there."

Former Delaware Gov. Pete du Pont interrupted, "But you ought to have the option — if you think they're going to help you, if you think they're going to help you, you ought to have the option of having one."

Brown replied, “Ten thousand women, three women will be saved for one year."

The abstract from the Lancet Magazine article Brown mentioned discussed a study questioning the efficacy of mammograms, mostly in the context of a push for public funding.

Mammograms have been a standard method of screening for breast cancer for about 30 years. Last year, the Obama administration released suggested new guidelines, saying women in their 40s don’t need to get mammograms routinely, and that they’re more effective after age 50. A major national debate ensued, and the discussion was tabled, although not resolved.

A Nexis search about Brown and mammograms reveals little over the past 15 years, other than a December 1995 piece in which he talked about a new radio show he was hosting and his ability to talk about a lot of different topics. In the interview, with Whole Earth Review, Brown bemoaned the culture of the quick-hit on TV and radio, and the lack of context topics get. “The show allows me to study things I normally wouldn't get into, and to put people on the air who have something to say. I've done shows, for example, with Jennifer Harbury, Bill Kunstler (now deceased), and the Michigan Militia, and shows on the lasting damage air pollution does to human health, on toxic-waste incinerators, on the ‘natural’ rate of unemployment, on the medical propaganda behind mammograms and prostate screening,” he said. “I include a wide spectrum of people and topics that go against the grain, and I like that.”

Asked for comment, Brown spokesman Sterling Clifford said, “That is indeed what (the Lancet story) says. The debate about the effectiveness of various cancer screenings has been going on for years.”

He added, ‘Fifteen years ago, as a radio host, Jerry participated in discussions about it. He never said, don't get screened for cancer, he never said the government shouldn't pay for cancer screening. And while this clip is about mammograms specifically, he also talked about prostate cancer screening at times, so trying to make this a gender issue is a bit silly. Jerry Brown opposes cancer in all cases.”

Asked if he believes in mammography, Clifford said, “He believes in people not getting cancer, has not followed developments in the effectiveness of various specific cancer screenings.”


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: abortion; ca; ca2010; california; cancer; deathpanels; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; infanticide; jerrybrown; mammogram; mammograms; medicareforall; megwhitman; obamacare; plannedparenthood; waronwomen; whitman
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To: Qbert

Since he’s a major boob, he thinks he’s an expert.


21 posted on 10/10/2010 9:17:14 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Qbert
Sources Point to Brown's Wife As Voice Heard Calling Whitman A "Whore".
22 posted on 10/10/2010 9:24:44 AM PDT by anita
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To: ncalburt
Feel free to Promote Self destruction in YOUR STATE

LOL - Conservative Republican Scott Walker is waltzing to victory here in WI.

Stop peddling LIES ab out Whitman.

Lies that Whitman is a Romney flunky and part of the GOP Rockefeller establishment?
Please, nobody spends $125 million just to be Governor. This woman is part of the GOP elite that supported RINOLD and will be RINOLD's 3rd term.

Jerry Brown created this MESS back in 1978

And he should be allowed to finish it since CA voters are too stupid to wake up.

Moonbeam signed the Dill's ACT which created the SEIU in CALIF http://www.foxandhoundsdaily.com/blog/joel-fox/6729-pension- bomb-explodes-jerry-brown%E2%80%99s-feet

What will Whitman do to repeal it?

Sp stop peddling CRAZY Nihilism or FELL free to dismantle your STATE for the sake of stupid purity

San Andreas Fault, do your duty!

23 posted on 10/10/2010 9:25:07 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Republic of the United States of America)
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To: BwanaNdege

Great news! My wife had a similar experience and is a 2 time breast cancer survivor. And, my hero. Bless you and your wife.


24 posted on 10/10/2010 9:26:15 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: ThomasThomas
Using the same logic we should let Obama have a second term.

Using your logic we should let a liberal Republican win since they're a "Republican."

All Whitman will do is delay the inevitable. The CA Legislature holds the real power and she'll have all the leadership of a caboose.

25 posted on 10/10/2010 9:26:43 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Republic of the United States of America)
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To: Qbert
"Asked if he believes in mammography, Clifford said, “He believes in people not getting cancer, has not followed developments in the effectiveness of various specific cancer screenings.”"

Knowing one "H" of a lot of Californians ARE NOT GOING TO REMEMBER for various reasons, but THAT EXPRESSES THE REAL JERRY BROWN THAT WAS IN OFFICE 1975-1983. HE DOES "NOT FOLLOW developments", AND "WILL TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT", then do not a damned thing about anything that isn't in the Marxist playbook, or in his own special interest. The man is a tremendous fraud.

26 posted on 10/10/2010 9:27:43 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Californians deserve Brown.

More properly, Californians deserve the government they elect.

They deserved Brown the first time, and if they elect him again, they deserve him again.

Brown is a Marxist lifetime failure selling one more chance at equal failure for all.

Whitman is a country club elite capitalist selling a fighting chance, if you work your butt off.

There's a big difference between the two.

27 posted on 10/10/2010 9:27:52 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Whitman is a liar, a fraud, and a phony. She views the Governor’s office as a plaything to cap off a successful business career. But business executive experience is not the same as public office experience. Brown will win anyway because of vote fraud.


28 posted on 10/10/2010 9:33:07 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Republic of the United States of America)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Wrong.

Whitman has the power of the veto which is HUGE !

She can kill the nutter Mark Leno’s agenda in its tracks !


29 posted on 10/10/2010 9:34:17 AM PDT by ncalburt (Even)
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To: Qbert

Women’s breasts and the health care choices they make with their doctors is none of this fascist’s business.


30 posted on 10/10/2010 9:36:09 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: KeyLargo

NOW

The National Organization of Whores? Now that fits. I doubt if any of them could make a living in the oldest profession

snicker snicker


31 posted on 10/10/2010 9:39:02 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
So , you FALL for the evil Rich people and class warfare BS !

Whitman earned her a money with hard work and long hours !

Do you have a problem with that?

The Arnold in a dress bs comment is the EXACT AstroTurf
THE LEFTIES ARE PEDDLING ON THE WEB !

Feel free to promote your Blue state up as a Left wing hell hole without a fight .

32 posted on 10/10/2010 9:40:12 AM PDT by ncalburt (Even)
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To: Qbert
Can we get off of mammograms?” Brown interjected. “I mean, first of all, if you read the Lancet Magazine in July, there's no statistical evidence that mammograms help anyone at any age
33 posted on 10/10/2010 9:41:32 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Qbert

“They squeezed my head in one of those machines and didn’t find anything!”


34 posted on 10/10/2010 9:44:27 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?)...Richard Frank DeCamp, 11/13/34-9/15/10, R.I.P.)
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To: Qbert

“Another person is heard on the recording saying, “What about calling her a whore?””

IMHO after hearing the tapes a couple of times I say it was Jerry Brown calling her a whore. The Brown campaign is trying to say it was Brown’s wife. If so she sounds like a man.


35 posted on 10/10/2010 9:44:43 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: anita

I think it was Jerry Brown and they are just trying to cover their *sses!

Anne Gust Brown is not only Jerry Brown’s wife, but is also a senior adviser on his gubernatorial campaign, who managed his campaign for Attorney General in 2006. 

Brown and Gust have been together for 20 years and married for five. Gust spent much of her career as a high powered businesswoman, most recently the chief administrative officer for clothing retailer ‘The Gap.’


36 posted on 10/10/2010 9:45:11 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Whitman is a liar, a fraud, and a phony. She views the Governor’s office as a plaything to cap off a successful business career.

No, Whitman is not playing, she plans to make lots for herself and friends by being Governor, but she will do it by allowing productive endeavors. True, not a conservative, she wants the power to pick and choose, rather that the Prop 23 level playing field for all, but productivity will grow the economy for all.

37 posted on 10/10/2010 9:56:32 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: married21

I was scrolling to see if anyone else has put that line in a comment. I read that and the first thing that came to mid was,”Wha???”
Maybe there are some politicians that don’t oppose cancer?


38 posted on 10/10/2010 10:03:56 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Qbert

Politico giving cover to Brown campaign. What a bunch of political whores.


39 posted on 10/10/2010 10:39:33 AM PDT by egannacht (Inalienable rights granted by...)
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To: Parley Baer

Brown’s voice is distinctive. I heard the tapes and immediately knew it was Crazy Jerry calling her a whore.


40 posted on 10/10/2010 10:42:19 AM PDT by egannacht (Inalienable rights granted by...)
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