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Is the Rail Runner running on empty? (NM - Richardson's Railroad)
KRQE News 13, Albuquerque ^ | May 26, 2010 | Kim Holland

Posted on 10/08/2010 12:06:04 PM PDT by CedarDave

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Excellent 5+ minute investigation into RR woes including soon to expire federal money and mostly unused stations that were built for millions. Posted now to have a FR record of red-ink operations and expenditures for unused stations.

Two additional articles with much more on the black hole called the NM Rail Runner:

RailRunner Costs Eating NM Alive

New Mexico Rail Runner’s Senseless Stations

1 posted on 10/08/2010 12:06:06 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; ...

NM list PING!

(The NM list is available on my FR homepage for anyone to use. Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)

2 posted on 10/08/2010 12:07:33 PM PDT by CedarDave
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What is the subsidy per passenger for this nightmare?


3 posted on 10/08/2010 12:10:58 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: tcrlaf
Currently, fares only cover about 14 percent of the operating costs.

Oh where Oh where is Willie G on these threads.
4 posted on 10/08/2010 12:12:24 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: tcrlaf
What is the subsidy per passenger for this nightmare?

About $10,500 per rider in 2009

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-albuquerque/reports-of-rail-runner-s-success-greatly-exaggerated

5 posted on 10/08/2010 12:14:39 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: tcrlaf
What is the subsidy per passenger for this nightmare?

Never fear; Willie Green will be here soon extolling the economic virtues of choo choo trains.

6 posted on 10/08/2010 12:15:58 PM PDT by dearolddad
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To: CedarDave

Maybe Richardson could turn it into a mobile gambling casino. Something like the Mississipi River boats.

Then people could go back and forth on it all day, from nowhere to nowhere.


7 posted on 10/08/2010 12:17:22 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: IYAS9YAS; tcrlaf

That would be per average rider for the year - based upon further reading of the article. Each trip was subsidized to the tune of about $16.89 per ride.


8 posted on 10/08/2010 12:23:14 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: Willie Green

Another Government subsidized rail success story for your archives.


9 posted on 10/08/2010 12:23:14 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: CedarDave

Why doesn’t “Boxcar” Willie Green pipe up and tell us how great it is for all of us to pay for these loser boondoggles?


10 posted on 10/08/2010 12:31:20 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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Actually, its worse than 14% farebox recovery. From the first link above:

But the RailRunner’s operating costs–and red ink–are already above those projections. We previously reported that the RailRunner’s operations costs for the FY ending June 31, 2009, topped $21 million. With ticket revenues of only $1.9 million, the year’s operating losses exceeded $19 million. The operating costs for the current FY are now estimated at $22 million.

This state legislative report was prepared in January. Since then the train has steadily lost riders - down 10-11% from last year. At that time revenues of $1.9 million divided by costs of $21 million results in farebox recovery percentage of 9.1%. It will be worse this year -- revenues are down and costs are up. If by a miracle the revenues stay the same and estimated costs are at $22 million, the percentage is reduced to 8.6% with taxpayers picking up the remaining 91.4%. Talk about an economic boondoggle!!

11 posted on 10/08/2010 12:36:13 PM PDT by CedarDave
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Would someone please tell me what it is with Democrats and trains? No where have we ever seen these things break even. They are all running in the red. Who are they paying off? It doesn’t matter whether it’s in Dallas, Albuquerque, Houston, Seattle, Amtrak, they all lose money. A lot of money.
Does no one wonder why we are trillions of dollars in debt? This is only one example of wastefull spending. Who benefits from these trains?


12 posted on 10/08/2010 12:45:01 PM PDT by Yankereb
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Maybe we can tie Willie G and Richardson to the tracks of this money losing fiasco.

Better bring a lot of rope for fat Richardson.


13 posted on 10/08/2010 12:52:50 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Yankereb

They all lose money, but some are actually used - Dallas, San Diego, Denver, Portland, Sacramento and now Salt Lake City are crowded. But all those cities have a much greater population and population density than ABQ so economically it might make sense to take a reasonable percentage off the highways. All of the above are light rail (think modern trolleys) except SLC and Dallas also have commuter rail which is what the RR is. The light rail systems in Houston and Phoenix are a joke — single tracks that really don’t go where the population is (growth in both Phoenix and Houston is radial around a central core).

ABQ has its major traffic flow east (east city and East Mountain area)-west (Paradise Hills, Rio Rancho). The RR goes north-south where development density is much less due to the Indian Pueblos. It remains that the RR was a resume enhancer for Bill Richardson when he was running for president or for a cabinet post under Obama (foiled by the many scandals of his administration).


14 posted on 10/08/2010 1:03:55 PM PDT by CedarDave
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Fare only cover 14% of operating expenses!!! WTF???? Man, I can’t wait until we get those high speed trains so we can lower the operating expenses to match the fares charged.


15 posted on 10/08/2010 1:05:01 PM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: GonzoGOP; tcrlaf; dearolddad; Willie Green

“No Reply”

( typical )


16 posted on 10/08/2010 1:39:43 PM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
Fare only cover 14% of operating expenses!!! WTF????

See my #11. It's worse than that -- down to 9% or lower.

17 posted on 10/08/2010 2:54:38 PM PDT by CedarDave
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Oh where Oh where is Willie G on these threads.

Me thinks poor Willie might be holed up in his basement on suicide watch.

18 posted on 10/08/2010 4:05:17 PM PDT by dearolddad
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To: CedarDave

I kinda took the Orange Line to the San Diego Zoo, the train took us about a mile, where we had to catch a bus. No one had the station could tell how to purchase a transfer to the bus. On the return trip a zoo employee explained to us how to do it. A couple of years, before we walked three blocks and caught the bus and went right there.

I have rode the New York Central into NYC many times and used subway system. San Diego’s rail is understaffed and under seated.


19 posted on 10/08/2010 6:02:28 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: Willie Green; GonzoGOP

Hey, Willie: Are your ears burning? Here’s an article just for you...


20 posted on 10/08/2010 8:38:23 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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