Sharpton: “This Is Our Day And We Ain’t Gving It Away”

http://radioviceonline.com/ ^ | August 30, 2010 | Steve McGough

[streetpreacher]

Separate but equal?

[wardaddy]

nope, just don’t know why venerate a quasi socialist on a conservative forum?

cause beck says so?

i prefer jeff....the one with oranges

[Free_SJersey]

I don’t believe that Booker T. Washington quote applied to MLK, a man I admired and mourned the loss as a youth, but as far as Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Maxine Water, Van Jones, etc go, it is almost B.T. Washington looked into the future and saw these leeches.

[streetpreacher]

Don’t know. I guess the same reason Christians are pretending Beck is a “born again” evangelical Mormon. LOL

[One Name]

Not a student of King, but I was a student in Alabama in 1964.

Would you have left the south as it was, largely unrepentant since Reconstruction, under the state sovereignty philosophy of conservatism?

I believe something needed to happen, and King strove for it peacefully, unlike Malcolm X, et al.

As a Christian who went to a white Christian school ( my parents paid to send me there to keep me away from trouble in the public schools) I saw things that still register deeply.

Tarpaper shacks, separate entrances to stores, dirt poor people in dirty clothes who wouldn’t look whites directly in the eye. This was 100 years after emancipation. But, there was a Christian desire there. King, for all his faults tapped into that and brought about change.

The movement was ultimately co-opted by liberals and the result was the dysfunctional “solution” that resulted in today’s failures with much of that community.

Paint me as you wish; I don’t worship MLK but something needed to happen down there. There really was a repressive system that was institutionalized evil.

[One Name]

The legitimate movement for decent equal treatment transmogrified into the government solution of throwing money at it without a cohesive, value-based strategy. So, we ended up with housing projects, quotas, cheese trucks, rewards for unwed motherhood and on and on. We’re much the worse for it now as a nation.

[wardaddy]

Nothing of what you said has anything whatsoever to do with whether or not MLK was a conservative as Beck falsely claims.

Nothing ..nada.

I was there too. Jackson Mississippi.

Been there lately?

Turned out great eh?...like Memphis, New Orleans etc

not saying segregation is preferable but what we have now ain't too hot either

Beck falls into the same trap you do.

The notion that whites hold the key to black failure or success and that we can lure them to conservatism by persuasion or history rewriting.

This has been tried for generations now. 95% of blacks are simply not interested.

And nothing has been co-opted by diddly. Nearly all the freedom riders were lefties as were the SCLC and SNVCC and so forth...associations King either headed, formed or aligned with and all his contemporaries except Roy Innis were proven lefties.

King was no conservative, in fact he was more leftist than all GOP then and most Democrats.

Beck is like I said...Oprah for the uninformed who can no longer brook Obama leftism even though some of them voted for him because he was black.

Civil Rights should have ended with enforcement of voting rights...period the end. What took place since then and voted for by the very folks Beck now admires has about ruined us

Politics is no longer local, it's racial and Beck is right in step.

And this just part of it.

I used to like him. He's right a good amount but when he professes pure falsehood as dogma.

Forget it.

You can have last word but hear this:

I've been here a long time. Beck will fade or implode. You remember this.

He's not my leader.

Thanks, you're pretty polite and haven't been here long enough to get nasty..lol

Btw whites were poor too then but like more blacks then they still had dignity and cohesive families and work ethics.

[One Name]

Told you I’m not a student or follower of King. I’m not a student or follower of Beck.

I don’t have cable TV, but I catch him at times on the radio late at night if I’m awake. I haven’t built anything around him- he’s a johnny-come-lately in my book.

I have great personal concerns about getting in a political bed with Mormons.

Whites don’t hold the key, but at one time we held the key, literally. When voting rights were restored (and enforced), our moral obligation began to evaporate.

In the vacuum created by the departure of Christian abolitionist energy, pure-D socialism and guiltism took hold.

I don’t dispute the marxist bent of entitlement-governance one bit.

My career has been in a prison system where we incarcerate 5 times as many blacks as the per capita population would indicate. This is not because they are oppressed, or the justice system stacked against them, but because they commit more crime as an ethnic group.

Individuals make their own life choices, but they don’t choose their DNA.

God gives each of us equal opportunity for salvation, despite our station of birth.

You and I have both seen some ugly stuff. It will get uglier yet.

Take care.

[Darren McCarty]

King supported reparations, backed big labor, and was almost a Hanoi Jane on Nam. Conservatives like him because his I have a dream speech has a good like, and is much less hostile than Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, or Jesse Jackson. I agree with that line too, but I damn well don't agree with his politics.

King's not a hero. Frederick Douglass is.