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USB Stick May Have Contributed to Deadly Plane Crash
dailytech ^ | August 23, 2010 4:20 PM | Tracie McDaniel -

Posted on 08/29/2010 5:40:07 PM PDT by Flavius

A corrupted USB stick contributed to Spain's worst air disaster on record, according to a 12,000-page report cited by the Spanish newspaper El Pais and USA Today.

It was initially believed that the crash of Flight 5022 that killed 154 people in 2008 was the result of pilot error, but investigators have now concluded that a computer infection spread through an infected USB stick may have contributed to the crash.

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1 posted on 08/29/2010 5:40:10 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

not this hogwash again, how many times is this crash going to be blamed on malware????


2 posted on 08/29/2010 5:48:11 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Flavius
A corrupted USB stick contributed to Spain's worst air disaster on record, according to a 12,000-page report cited by the Spanish newspaper El Pais and USA Today.

That's more pages that the Obamacare bill. Reports don't need to be anywhere near that long unless they are intended to obfuscate and confuse.

3 posted on 08/29/2010 5:51:45 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Politicians exist to break windows so they may spend other people's money to fix them.)
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To: Flavius

I will never knowingly get on any aircraft that contains microsoft products.

And this is NOT a joke.

Microsoft products, however, are.


4 posted on 08/29/2010 6:08:10 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

I should add to my above comment, howwever.

NO competent pilot would have allowed any of the reasons stated in the article to cause a crash.

Somehow, without computers, pilots have managed to check flap positions, etc. using (wait for it) their own eyes.

I laugh when I fly with some of the recent private pilots, who would be lost without GPS and computer aided auto pilots. I could only wish they were piloting Air Force One. (However, our AF-1 military pilots - no matter what they think about the Loon-In-Chief, wouldn’t be fooled by faulty computer readings).


5 posted on 08/29/2010 6:11:14 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

The computer had nothing to do with it. It was working, just slow. The pilots did not do their job.

BTW, I’d wager that microsoft played a significant part in the design and construction of the airplane.


6 posted on 08/29/2010 6:15:39 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Flavius

Wow, it must be fun going into one of those tricky drop over the mountain, power it towards the earth, pull full flaps, and 5mph over stall get the BSOD!


7 posted on 08/29/2010 6:29:35 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Da Coyote
I ran into this love affair with GPS and "glass cockpits" 3 years ago when I (re)started logging hours for my private pilot's certificate after about a 15-20 year hiatus.

The need to yack on the radio non-stop because they like to feel self-important is notably worse as well.

8 posted on 08/29/2010 6:34:39 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: driftdiver

I don’t know.

People seem to want to think the plane itself had malware loaded on it’s computers, and it seems impossible to knock that notion out of their heads...

The crash was due to pilot error.


9 posted on 08/29/2010 7:46:55 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: All

Just to be clear, the computer that was infected was not on the plane, and had nothing to do with controlling or flying the plane.


10 posted on 08/29/2010 7:51:21 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: driftdiver
dailytech poster has explanation as he read report --

[Collapse Comment] Virus Had NOTHING To Do With The Crash
By DougF on 8/24/2010 8:35:04 AM , Rating: 5

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The report indicates that the computer failed to detect three problems (including one issue with the airplane's wing flaps being in the incorrect position for takeoff) in a fail-safe monitoring system and that those problems were brought on by a malicious program that came from the USB thumb drive.

Wrong again. I've read the report and it CLEARLY states that the aircrew had the aircraft in "flight" mode, where the weight on wheels (WOW) switch is overridden in the cockpit. Normally, this is used for ground maintenance troubleshooting, and is NOT an approved part of pre-flight switchology. With the WOW switch in "flight" mode, the temperature probe registered a fault, which was then turned off as it is redundant for flight. With the aircraft in "flight" mode, there would have been NO warning or error logged as part of the takeoff process, as the aircraft already thinks it's in flight. The "problem" is that the aircrew was monkeying around with switches and put themselves and the passengers in grave danger.

The aircrew successfully defeated THREE SAFTEY PROCEDURES: 1) They had the WOW in "flight" mode for takeoff; 2) The aircrew said, but did NOT check the indication for flaps/slats in the cockpit; and 3) The aircrew failed to conduct a MANDATORY visual inspection for the flaps/slats from the cockpit windows.
Those three safety violations killed the aircrew, the passengers, and destroyed the aircraft, NOT a virus on the airline's mainframe. The virus did affect the showing of multiple faults, but that had NOTHING to do with this accident. The enquiry is simply finding additional problems that need to be addressed, they are not saying the virus had anything to do with this crash.

C'mon read the report...


11 posted on 08/29/2010 8:00:26 PM PDT by all_mighty_dollar
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To: ltc8k6
People seem to want to think the plane itself had malware loaded on it’s computers, and it seems impossible to knock that notion out of their heads...

Microsoft makes a such good villain that the story just HAS TO be true.

12 posted on 08/29/2010 8:11:47 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Da Coyote

Microsoft, which I now call MacroSludge.

I just upgraded to Office 2010. This is the biggest POS that I have run into from Macrosludge. I have had complete system lockups requiring hard reboots, and also multiple times where the software dumps, claiming to be unlicensed.

To bad DEC was a company with piss poor management, since looking back X-Windows had much more potential and stability. A Windows style GUI running on top of UNIX - or is that what Mac OS-X is supposed to be?

This is what’s scary in my line of work. A lot of industrial automation systems (operator interfaces, data historians, fortunately not the logic/control engines in PLC’s yet) are based on some MacroSludge operating system. This includes refineries, power plants, and pipelines. I have referred to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission as anal retentive, but if they decide to decertify any control equipment (including operator interfaces, and anything else directly associated with plant operation) that runs MacroSludge, I would in this case see their point.


13 posted on 08/29/2010 8:44:15 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes!)
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To: Flavius
I know someone who works for a large utility. This person told me that they are not allowed to transfer any information from a PC to any piece of "functional equipment" (that is, hardware that's actually controlling the power-generation equipment, be it generation, metering, monitoring, or distribution) via memory stick, or by any other means (DVD, CD-ROM, magnetic disk, anything). The only way they can put information that originated within a computer that's attached to the internet into a piece of functional equipment is by typing that information in at a keyboard. That's it.
14 posted on 11/19/2010 9:05:24 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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