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A Lot Worse: UK Mired In £5 Trillion Of Debt
Sky News ^ | 14 July 2010

Posted on 08/18/2010 11:06:25 AM PDT by george76

Britain has sunk into a pit of debt which is five times deeper than previously feared, with the country now owing the equivalent of £200,000 per household.

Instead of the £1 trillion reading normally presented as the nation's debt, the UK is in the red by closer to £5 trillion...

a broader set of ONS figures taking in Government liabilities show unfunded public service pension obligations could add another £1.2 trillion and liabilities in unfunded state pension schemes a further £1.35 trillion.

The sum is almost four times the size of the UK's total gross domestic product in 2009...a more realistic - and starker - picture of the UK finances.

All governments (massage figures) and ...Gordon Brown was a past master at it - he was a master in stealth taxation and he was a master in making the numbers look the right way.

"We need to know what the figures are, and then at least we can tackle it."

(Excerpt) Read more at uk.finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; debt; gordonbrown; pitofdebt; stealthtaxation; taxation; taxes; unitedkingdom; unitedmagickingdom
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1 posted on 08/18/2010 11:06:28 AM PDT by george76
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Tell them NOT to worry, the U.S. Treasury understands this, has lotz and lotz of money, and can send them a WIRE and guarantee their loans up to 334 trillion dollars. We have the presses to print even bills in $1,000 denomination, with Mr. Obama on them. Watch for this soon.


2 posted on 08/18/2010 11:09:30 AM PDT by rovenstinez (,)
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Wow. On a per-person basis, that might even be worse that our debt...


3 posted on 08/18/2010 11:10:00 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: george76
The Britannic...
4 posted on 08/18/2010 11:13:48 AM PDT by traumer
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To: Little Ray
Wow. On a per-person basis, that might even be worse that our debt...

I doubt it. If the US federal government's debt were to be restated in the same terms (including unfunded liabilities), it would be about the same.

5 posted on 08/18/2010 11:13:53 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: george76

Rule, Britannia!


6 posted on 08/18/2010 11:16:17 AM PDT by j-damn
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To: george76

They let endless illegals from Islamic countries flood in and gave them insane and endless benefits. Sound familiar?


7 posted on 08/18/2010 11:19:00 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Obama & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE)
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To: Little Ray
Different people have different estimates, but the LOWEST I could find for the US was the unfunded liability for various entitlements is 60 trillion dollars.

http://www.businessinsider.com/unfunded-liabilities-jpmorgan-2010-7

And that doesn't include various state entitlement programs, which are estimated to be as high as 3 trillion, combined.

8 posted on 08/18/2010 11:19:29 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: george76
Felix Zulauf: Up Close And Personal - An Interview With Barry Ritholtz (Economy - Investing)
9 posted on 08/18/2010 11:20:51 AM PDT by blam
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To: george76

This whole “economic” thing is gonna crash the world when the perfect storm hits.


10 posted on 08/18/2010 11:22:46 AM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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£200,000 Per Person? That’s more than most mortgages, and a lot of those people are dependents, not working taxpayers. We are f00ked. I can’t see any other way out of this other than default, which will destroy our reputation for credit worthiness for generations. If he had any decency, Broon would commit Seppuku, but I doubt even that would wipe away the shame and dishonour of destroying his own country...


11 posted on 08/18/2010 11:27:21 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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Are they selling national treasures or monuments yet?

I want to buy the Tower of London.


12 posted on 08/18/2010 11:57:58 AM PDT by moovova
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To: justlurking

The U.S. debt, including unfunded liabilities, stands at around 59 trillion.


13 posted on 08/18/2010 11:58:00 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Frantzie

DING DING DING DING DING, we have a winner.


14 posted on 08/18/2010 12:01:56 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: justlurking

Yup. We got about twice the debt on a per-persons basis.


15 posted on 08/18/2010 12:46:41 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: george76

I don’t think this story ends well.


16 posted on 08/18/2010 1:34:47 PM PDT by The Duke
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17 posted on 08/18/2010 3:19:24 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; ...
They need to sell the whole country to Disney, which could then boost tourism by creating the United Magic Kingdom.
United Magic Kingdom
[stolen joke alert] Thanks george76.
18 posted on 08/19/2010 7:18:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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That’s over 100% of GDP.


19 posted on 08/19/2010 7:21:27 PM PDT by rmlew ("To put an end to amnesty once and for all...it is time to 'regularize' the status of John McCain.)
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It is. We’re about five years ahead of you, about eight years behind Greece, and about twelve years behind Zimbabwe


20 posted on 08/24/2010 3:13:05 AM PDT by Vanders9
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