Posted on 08/17/2010 9:58:42 AM PDT by lakeprincess
So you've never been in the Army?
Jerry Clower had a great routine making fun of the attitude of the women’s lib movement. It ended with Clower telling the stubborn women’s libber:
“Momma (Jerry’s wife) don’t want you messin’ with the deal she’s got.”
Hey, all. The bottom line here is that if you go around treating men and women the same, NOW has achieved its goal of oppressing everyone by putting us into an “us and them” situation, instead of treating people as individuals.
Don’t kid yourself, because even back in the day of Sir Galahad, only ladies were treated with chivalry. Scullery maids, peasant women and harlots were not.
Today, the same rules apply to gentlemen and ladies. A gentleman will begin by assuming a woman is a lady, until she proves otherwise; but from that point forward he is under no more obligation to extend chivalric courtesies to her.
A lady, for her part, appreciates chivalric courtesies, and indicates that she respects the effort, even if the man otherwise looks less like a gentleman. The idea being to encourage courtesy in society for all, even the poor, if they will have it, for the benefit of society.
You need to tell that to the ladies where I’m from. They just didn’t get that whole song and dance.
I would do that for them, and they’d insist that they should stand up, and they didn’t need a man to help them.
Thank you for that. The responses on this thread don't surprise me. There are a lot of bitter males on FR who hate women and blame them for everything. Thank goodness not all of them are that way. The fact is, men benefited just as much, if not more, from feminism. Thanks to feminism, women became much more loose sexually, and they started having more abortions, which got men off the hook for child support or shotgun weddings. There is plenty of blame to go around for the consequences of feminism.
Whenever I see the movie Miracle on 34th Steet, there's a scene that really strikes me. Maureen O'Hara's character is an executive at a big department store. She has an office and a secretary and appears to be equal to all the male executives. Apparently movie goers in the '40s didn't find anything odd about this. Anyway, there's one scene where all of the executives are called into the big boss's office. Maureen O'Hara is one of the last to arrive, and the only female. When she walks into the office, all of the men stand up. Every time I see that scene, I think how lovely it was that women actually used to be treated that way, and how maybe, when we fought for equal rights, we shouldn't have thrown the baby out with the bath water. Feminism has, IMO, done more harm than good.
I used to give up my seat to a lady, but these days I am in an electric wheelchair.
Oh yeah, Sarah Palin Feminists are also HOT!
Wait a minute, wait a minute. The Feministas wanted women abandon the home and join men in the public arena of work. If women really wanted to be treated equally like the men then they should be happy to be treated more like a man than a woman. When was the last time a man treated a man like a woman?
Men have been emasculated and feminized while women have been masculinized by the process of Socialization.
If women want to be treated better its up to the women to go home and raise their sons in a better manner and allow men to be men.
“I remember seeing in older movies that when a lady walked into a room full of men, the men stood up as a gesture of respect. I sertainly have never witnessed that in person, I’m 48.”
I’ve always done this. Maybe not a roomfull, but surely some men have done this for you?
I’m a 52 year old dad to 3, 2 girls and a boy (LOL, the youngest is 18, and I just called the 28 year old a boy).
Courtesy is not something I taught just to the boy. I taught them all to do the same thing, and letting a door slam back on anyone is simply unnecessary. Same with seating on public transportation.
It has nothing to do with feminism or chivalry, it’s just plain good manners.
I do not believe this is properly laid in the laps of feminists, I believe it is part and parcel of the “oh my God, my life is so important that I simply don’t have time to consider others in the equation”.
Mama raised this boy right. And I sure hope I passed it on.
Yep it has...and I am a woman. Never was on their bandwagon and never will be. The idea of equal pay is good though..but based on preformance not because you're just doing the same job. I am a performance type individual when it comes to the workplace...believe employeers should not have to be "fair" the way it's being played out today. If you're not doing the job the other guy is doing in meeting expectations ...well then learn how to or your done and need to find something else more suited.
I've stood for women, pulled out chairs, tipped my hat, given up my seat, opened doors and even been careful to walk on the street side of sidewalks with women. Usually unspoken reactions vary from "What the hell are you doing" to bewilderment to thanks. I don't care. I was raised that way and am too old to change. I've never gone as far as one old Polish gentleman I knew who, when introduced to a lady, would click his heels and kiss her hand.
Cheers for your hubby. Mine does too. I also hold doors for other people, if I get there first, if they have their hands full, if they are older. Kindness is kindness. Sometimes when you are kind to someone who doesn’t deserve it, they might be kind to someone else. I consider it Christian outreach of a sort.
I’ve opened doors for women who then gave me a nasty look. ?? Screw it.
This is why I’d never marry an American women — most are high maintenance, fat, and crazy. Most aren’t interested in having families either so at least they are a dying breed.
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Gosh, you’re still single? That’s quite a shock. Maybe your really bad attitude about who you are opening the door for shows through?
I’ve been holding doors open for women (and anyone else, frankly) since I was a old enough to hold them open. I’m 52 now and still doing so. It’s called manners. I look them all straight in the eye and smile as I am doing so.
Never, not once, have I ever received a dirty look for having done so, universally it is appreciated. And I live here on the east coast in Baltimore.
“I do recall my Grandmother sending that woman into a rack of clothing”
Sounds like a respectable Grandmother to me. (I would do the same)
“This is why I’d never marry an American women...”
There is a growing trend of American men marrying foreign women because American have grown fat, arrogant, coarse, obnoxious, entitled, hateful, condescending, argumentative, disrespectful and who view men as the enemy.
How did Lenny Kravitz put it?
American woman, stay away from me
American woman, mama let me be
Don’t come hanging around my door
I don’t want to see your face no more
I got more important things to do
Than spend my time growin’ old with you
Now woman, stay away
American woman, listen what I say
Good manners debase you? No, your good manners enhance you, regardless of the response you get from the other person. They can only debase themselves.
The other night, as we went into a restaurant, my husband opened the door. Noticing a woman behind us, I stepped aside to let her in first. She looked surprised, then thanked my husband for holding the door open for her.
Thank you for posting that. I was getting very depressed reading most of the responses here. Men who decide that they are going to let a few rude women turn them into rude men make me sad.
Ya think?
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