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1 posted on 08/12/2010 3:05:54 PM PDT by B-Chan
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Given the lack of investment in technological advancement, particularly in the West, the rank stupdity in our polity and our public life (primarily through the propogandistic dumbing-down of our interactions and exchanges via the media) and our seeming inability to even engage in important infrastructure improvements and advancements (thank you to the zero-growth mania of the greens)...I would say that it is not at all out of place to think that we are now entering a new Dark Ages.


2 posted on 08/12/2010 3:13:05 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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I don’t think life is much different because of ubiquitous computers.

Obviously he's never hear of FR or online dating or...

3 posted on 08/12/2010 3:13:25 PM PDT by Errant
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They promised us jet packs and flying cars. Hmmmmpphh.


4 posted on 08/12/2010 3:13:28 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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I think medical advancements are pretty good since 1959


9 posted on 08/12/2010 3:31:46 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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Periods of invention are usually followed by periods of innovation. We experienced a great deal of invention in the first half of the Twentieth Century. The second half expanded upon those inventions with innovation. For example, computers were around in 1959 but the last 50 or 60 years have improved on the technology greatly.

To discount innovation with respect to invention is short sighted at best.

11 posted on 08/12/2010 3:33:11 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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bump for later.


12 posted on 08/12/2010 3:33:39 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Is this guy drunk? The computer alone has gone through a dozen major technological jumps since 1959. Calculators today have more computing power than put a man on the moon. Heck the really kick butt calculators probably have more computing power than existed in 1959.

Beyond computers tons of other stuff has changed. International telephony actually works for everybody not just a few, and can be done from the palm of your hand in your back yard not physically connected to anything. Speaking of more computing power than existed in 1959, how about them smartphones. He’s just plane wrong about commercial jet flights being routine in 1959, commercial flight wasn’t routine for anybody and commercial jets were rarer still. Then there’s the revolution in cars, better fuel, better comfort, and now they can tell you where you are and how to get where you want to go. And as for televisions forget about it, the change from 13” black and white over the air to 52” HD satellite and cable and possibly even 3D ready is so dramatic they probably need a new name.

Then there’s the stuff he didn’t even bother to mention. How about lenses. Anybody whose been wearing glasses for the past 10 or 15 years knows some amazing changes have happened there. Every pair I get is lighter and more durable than the ones they replace even though the prescription is stronger. And how about the revolution in the storage and transfer of music. Heck just in the performance of music, one of the reason so many old farts keep touring is they love playing with the new technology.


13 posted on 08/12/2010 3:33:48 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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In 1943 Thomas Watson, the chairman of IBM, is reputed to have predicted, "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." Boy, he sure blew that one, and he was the world's expert on the topic.

So much for predicting the future. When you get right down to it, let's face it.....it's impossible.

14 posted on 08/12/2010 3:37:46 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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I guess the central question, the central thesis, is that the degree of change in the last fifty years, as large as it seems to us in our lifetime, is - according to the author - a matter of whole lot of “refinement” based on earlier “groundbreaking” discoveries; whereas the previous fifty years was a period of a whole lot of brand new breakthroughs.

They may be right, but what about “medical science”. To me that area seems the reverse of Mr. Murray’s thesis; with the period of 1900 to 1950s being “refinements” of earlier discoveries but the 1950s to 2000 seeing some major breakthroughs. Am I wrong?


15 posted on 08/12/2010 3:41:20 PM PDT by Wuli
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We've made a lot of technological progress in the last 50 years. But we haven't put a dent in quality of life- at least not in the United States. I would argue that quality of life is worst today, than in 1960. Quality of life has much more to it than just new and improved products. It has to do with the overall aspects of life and can be subjective to a large degree.

US Cities were much more livable in 1960 than they are today. This is true coast to coast. There was a lot less crime and less vulgarity in our daily lives. This is a topic I could write on all day, but time is short today. Suffice it to say, I don't like America as much today as I did in 1960, even though I was a very small child at the time. The United States was a much better country in 1960.

If there were such a thing as a time machine and I could get into it and go back to 1960, I'd do it in a second. In fact I turn the dial back to 1950.
16 posted on 08/12/2010 3:45:29 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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In 1959, we had computers

Right. And the computing/storage capability of today's laptops would have weighed about 10 million pounds and have been the size of a the pentagon. Cost? Probably about the same as obamacare.

I'll take the unimpressive tech of today and he can stick with the '59 version.

17 posted on 08/12/2010 3:45:48 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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Predictions are risky, especially when they’re about the future . . .

Yogi Berra couldn't have said it better.

19 posted on 08/12/2010 3:49:07 PM PDT by Misterioso (The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it. -- Ayn Rand)
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Many of you will still be alive in 50 years.

I'll be 115.

22 posted on 08/12/2010 3:58:39 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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Looking forward, I can’t think of a single technology in the works today which will revolutionize life in the 21st century...

Silly. Genetic engineering could have enormous consequences. It's not a gadget you can hold in your hand or ride downtown, but it's going to be a big change for some people.

Similarly, if we get transportation that doesn't depend on petroleum, it won't be as dramatic as seeing that first car or airplane coming at you, but it would mean a major change in the way the world works.

And if the "people" of 2100 aren't really human beings, but some new synthesis of man and machine, that would also be a major change.

BTW, John Lukacs used to play this game, but he'd go back even further. If you saw the coming of the railroad, the telephone, the automobile, and the airplane, he'd say, you saw the world change more than anyone who came along afterward would.

That's true. The shift from an agricultural to an industrial world was greater than anything we've seen since.

It doesn't mean that technological progress has stopped, though.

24 posted on 08/12/2010 4:02:15 PM PDT by x
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Nanotech and memsistors are two biggies that might make a huge leap. The LHC could also find some stuff for anti-gravity by 50 years as well. Hard to say at this point.

It kinda depends on what you want as well. Probably no moon bases thanks to hussein. Possibly a space elevator if nanotech works out though.


25 posted on 08/12/2010 4:03:01 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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Is he nuts? Look what size the cell phones were back then:


27 posted on 08/12/2010 4:06:58 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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Universal compulsory "education."

Add that to "affirmative action," and the prohibition against legitimate criticism of a large part of our population, and you get lowered standards for nearly every human endeavor.

I heard many people complain about affirmative acction because they thought it was unfair. I always knew that a more insidious side effect would be a gradual erosion of meritocracy as the dominant ethos of our culture.

29 posted on 08/12/2010 4:11:24 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'd rather take my chances with someone misusing freedom than someone misusing power.)
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Technology is all, or almost all, about making more out of less, as the planet becomes increasingly overpopulated.


32 posted on 08/12/2010 4:19:58 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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Drivel to get some words on paper and get paid.

My I Phone has more power and network ability than anything that was even conceived in 1959 and it is obsolete


37 posted on 08/12/2010 4:27:09 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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I remember 1960 vividly, and seriously disagree that things have not changed.

Medical science has changed tremendously. My father nearly died in 1961 of a coronary, and the treatment then was to keep him in a hospital bed for 6 weeks! He was only in his mid-40s. He was told to avoid any exertion afterward.

Science has moved on tremendously. In 1960, Venus was still thought to be cool enough to be habitable, and the only images of Mars were taken through the fog of the Earth's atmosphere.

Communication has changed. Long distance calls inside the country were an event in 1960. In the 1990s, one of my coworkers dialed direct her parents in India after an earthquake to check on them.

And there was NO clumping cat litter in 1960!!!
38 posted on 08/12/2010 4:27:37 PM PDT by Nepeta
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