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Backyard Scofflaws Found on Earth -- Google Earth (1984 Big Brother)
foxnews.com ^ | August 02, 2010 | ap

Posted on 08/02/2010 12:14:24 PM PDT by goldendays

Edited on 08/02/2010 12:18:13 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Backyard Scofflaws Found on Earth -- Google Earth Google Earth is now being used to track down criminals, at least in one small town on Long Island. RIVERHEAD, N.Y.

A town on New York's Long Island is using Google Earth to find backyard pools that don't have the proper permits.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: government; irs; taxman
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To: goldendays
My reaction is probably a bit different than what most people on this thread seem to think.

Knowing the suburban New York City region the way I do, I think this really has nothing to do with pools that have been installed without "proper permits" or anything like that. I believe the real motivation here is that this municipal government is using an inexpensive (but effective) to identify homes with pools in the backyards to increase the assessed value of the property for the purpose of computing property taxes.

21 posted on 08/02/2010 12:54:30 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: marktwain
This is exactly opposite the whole philosophy of western law, which is that everything that is not forbidden is allowed.

The next step after "Everything that is not allowed is forbidden" is "Everything that is not forbidden is mandatory."

We're getting there soon enough.

22 posted on 08/02/2010 1:01:56 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: goldendays

Sounds like there’s a marked for camouflage nets here.


23 posted on 08/02/2010 1:03:45 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: goldendays
"Pool safety has always been my concern," Barnes said.

Oh, of course

24 posted on 08/02/2010 1:07:08 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Regulator

Another big issue is the assessor increasing property value after green energy features are added. Lets say you do the math and find that solar water heating will pay for itself in 8 years, then the assessor tacks on value and subsequent taxes and you may never pay off your improvement.


25 posted on 08/02/2010 1:08:18 PM PDT by George from New England (Escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: goldendays

LOL! More like the unapproved driveway.


26 posted on 08/02/2010 1:13:33 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Borax Queen
This is all acclimating us to having bedrooms in our homes.

I got used to that a long time ago.

27 posted on 08/02/2010 1:20:51 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Richard Kimball

LOL, I can’t believe I didn’t catch that....
My fingers were working faster than my brain. And I’m even on vacation today.

“cameras in the bedrooms”

or

“cameras in our homes”

:0)


28 posted on 08/02/2010 1:29:15 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: marktwain

Whatt do you know the history of zoning laws? Where did you pick up the information you are stating?

The first zoning ordinances had *nothing* to do with Progressives. They were attempts by property owners to keep property values high as trolleys and suburbanization began in the late 19th Century. Factories, forges and blacksmith shops, boarding houses and slaughterhouses were all among the first “scourges” of property values that homeowners saw driving down the values of their homes.

If anything, they were intened as a way to keep out “undesirables” - especially the urban poor and non-whites, who wanted to escape tebements but couldn’t afford to buy single-family homes. By keeping out boarding houses,
multiple-family residences, apartment houses, and places of employment for the non-skilled, homeowners had a better chance of making sure the right sort of people were their neighbors. It was still legal to put codicils in deeds that restricted ownership of the property as to use and as to racial and religious ownership of the property. This was exactly the *opposite* of what Progressives wanted.

We live in a home that was in the first “suburban” development in the area to permit Jewish ownership - although the first deed to the property forbade its purchase by a “member of the Negro or Chinese race.” Of course, codicils like that are illegal now.

Zoning laws changed as the suburbs changed. The auto suburbs spread following the passage of the Interstate Highway Act, and folks left the cities. But these were the very people that zoning laws were originally intended to keep out.

The first thing *those* folks wanted to do was get rid of agriculture in the suburbs - too smelly and noisy. It’s why my town won’t let me keep chickens in the old chicken coop on my property. Now THAT’S tyrannical!


29 posted on 08/02/2010 1:33:52 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: George from New England
Yup. Funny how the people pushing it never mention things like that.

Property taxes should not be levied on homestead property. As an artifact of feudalism, they are fundamentally inconsistent with American opposition to feudal taxation.

The justification for property taxes was supposedly to encourage productivity of the land - not tax people out of their homes because the government employees think they deserve a bite of the pie too.

They don't.

30 posted on 08/02/2010 1:34:17 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out!! The Americans are On the March!! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: marktwain

They have gone from bad to worse in the past twenty years. A new-ish trend in Cali is to make everything the subject of a “conditional use permit”. Which is a way of the city saying “we’ll make the rules up after you apply, and figure out how much we can shake you down for”. Ironically, most people are OK with this, as cities have tended to tread lightly on voter-rich single-family properties, and save the real love for commercial and multi-unit residential developers.

It’s a cesspool of corruption, and, as you point out, one area in which the word “tryanny” can be used withouy hyperbole.


31 posted on 08/02/2010 1:41:37 PM PDT by absalom01 (Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: marktwain

They have gone from bad to worse in the past twenty years. A new-ish trend in Cali is to make everything the subject of a “conditional use permit”. Which is a way of the city saying “we’ll make the rules up after you apply, and figure out how much we can shake you down for”. Ironically, most people are OK with this, as cities have tended to tread lightly on voter-rich single-family properties, and save the real love for commercial and multi-unit residential developers.

It’s a cesspool of corruption, and, as you point out, one area in which the word “tryanny” can be used withouy hyperbole.


32 posted on 08/02/2010 1:41:41 PM PDT by absalom01 (Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: Regulator
Plus , if more people knew and understood the hidden asset value in our CAFR(Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports), property taxes would be seen as the investment they really are and could be optioned into or out of at will.

But that would require listening to Alex Jones & Walter Burien.

33 posted on 08/02/2010 1:46:36 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: norraad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kdWdw7gqxo&feature=related


34 posted on 08/02/2010 1:47:07 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: eak3

We removed our above ground pool a few years ago - Google Earth still shows it.


35 posted on 08/02/2010 2:52:44 PM PDT by knittnmom ("...only dead fish 'go with the flow'". - Sarah Palin 7/09)
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To: knittnmom
"Well then, according to our records, see right here,(Google admits to being a gov. cut out), you still owe tax on it."
36 posted on 08/02/2010 2:58:58 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: knittnmom
the image date should be at the bottom of the page
37 posted on 08/02/2010 3:11:27 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

The image from Google Earth of my place is over 6 years old, as the house next door isn’t shown yet, and my 3 year old white roof is seen as the mossy black it once was.


38 posted on 08/02/2010 4:53:25 PM PDT by Don W (I keep some folks' numbers in my 'phone just so I know NOT to answer when they call...)
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To: Don W
mine is from 2007...
39 posted on 08/02/2010 5:00:38 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: paul51

I’ve heard that in some areas of the country pools decrease the value of your house, because of maintenance, etc.


40 posted on 08/02/2010 5:38:54 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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