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Expert: Win climate change debate by easing off science
Post Independent -- Glenwood Springs, Colorado ^ | Thursday, July 29, 2010 | Scott Condon

Posted on 08/01/2010 9:14:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Panelist says issue must be reframed before time runs out

The battle to get Americans to accept the science behind climate change has been “lost,” an expert at the Aspen Environment Forum declared Wednesday, but there's still a way to win the war to reduce carbon emissions.

Jonathan Foley, director of the Institute on the Environment at the University of Minnesota, said leaders on climate change need to concentrate on changing behavior in ways that appeal to people — and also happen to reduce carbon emissions.

“Climate scientists — stop talking about climate science. We lost. It's over. Forget it,” Foley told a surprised audience during a featured panel discussion on the last day of the three-day forum.

He said he likes nothing more than addressing conservatives and trying to win them over. “I like to walk into rooms like that and say, ‘Forget about climate change. Do you love America?'

“And they'll go, ‘Yeah.' I'll say, ‘Doesn't it kind of tick you off that we borrow money from China, send it to Saudi Arabia to prop up this energy industry ... You're pushing a lot of buttons. They agree on that,” Foley said.

Environmentalists and climate deniers should stop fighting and take action they agree on, even if they approach the issue from different sides, he said.

“The skepticism around climate change has created a trap for us,” Foley said. “Stop digging yourself into the hole. Get out of it. Talk about it a different way. Reframe the issue.”

(Excerpt) Read more at postindependent.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: capandtax; carbontrade; energy; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax
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1 posted on 08/01/2010 9:14:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: steelyourfaith; NormsRevenge; Fred Nerks; Marine_Uncle; BIGLOOK; blam; SunkenCiv; Grampa Dave; ...

fyi


2 posted on 08/01/2010 9:14:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Jonathan Foley, director of the Institute on the Environment at the University of Minnesota

Sounds like this guy's bank account balance might rely on "climate change".

3 posted on 08/01/2010 9:19:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Ich bin ein illegal alien! - Barry Obama standing up with Central and South America against Arizona.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There is no way to sell “cap & Trade” poison pill by appealing to Patriotism. NO SELL!

The Left are LIARS........

Never trust a Leftie or a bureaucrap.

The entire thing is a total FRAUD, just like Obozo. He is a poser Fraud who will eventually be exposed for what he is.

First we must regain the House. No honest investigation can happen until we “throw the bums out” (including the RINO Traitors too)


4 posted on 08/01/2010 9:19:54 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; Texas Fossil
Related thread:

Nature Stunner: “Global warming blamed for 40% decline in the ocean’s phytoplankton” ( Really?)

5 posted on 08/01/2010 9:24:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“Climate scientists — stop talking about climate science. We lost. It's over. Forget it,” Foley told a surprised audience during a featured panel discussion on the last day of the three-day forum.
They lost on the science yet they still want to push their agenda on grounds of their sincere and abiding faith in ... what, precisely? The science was their whole argument.

I am confident that they will push this agenda until they discover that higher carbon dioxide levels cause people to vote Democrat.
6 posted on 08/01/2010 9:26:01 PM PDT by casuist (Audi alteram partem.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

>> “Climate scientists — stop talking about climate science. We lost. It’s over. Forget it,” Foley told a surprised audience...

>> He said he likes nothing more than addressing conservatives and trying to win them over.

These idiots self-destructed. Not our fault for challenging their suspicious data, calculations, and radically motivated theories.


7 posted on 08/01/2010 9:26:20 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; IrishCatholic; meyer; SteamShovel; Desdemona; grey_whiskers; proud_yank; ...
Thanx Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

8 posted on 08/01/2010 9:26:28 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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bm


9 posted on 08/01/2010 9:27:26 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Translation: D@MN riff raft figured us out. Now we must use our intellectual superiority to fool the fools (that would be us) into supporting our mendacity.
10 posted on 08/01/2010 9:34:56 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (The new improved version of NUC 1. This version will remember his password.)
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Must give a H/T to the Climate Depot for pointing to this.


11 posted on 08/01/2010 9:35:38 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Didn't we all hear the same tune sung in a different key by many of the same suspects after the fall of the wall and the disintegration of the Soviet Union?

Like Robert DeNiro in Cape Fear,they always come back.


12 posted on 08/01/2010 9:37:42 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yep, that one is utter BS also.

They are artists at the “Big Lie”.


13 posted on 08/01/2010 9:42:58 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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““And they’ll go, ‘Yeah.’ I’ll say, ‘Doesn’t it kind of tick you off that we borrow money from China, send it to Saudi Arabia to prop up this energy industry ... You’re pushing a lot of buttons. They agree on that,” Foley said.

They really think we’re easily manipulated simpletons.

Our answer should be - use the domestic sources of energy that we have - dig for oil, use coal, natural gas, nuclear and yes develop and use solar and wind where it makes sense.

It’s called all of the above and the free market. Now that they’ve admitted they’re frauds and that man made global warming is a crock there’s no need to avoid CO2-emitting fuel!


14 posted on 08/01/2010 9:46:27 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

These fools just don’t want to let go. Now that climate change has been debunked, the Left looks more stupid than ever. Clowns, all...


15 posted on 08/01/2010 9:47:24 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Nuc 1.1

The average IQ in Mn is 70. for those who are professors or claim to be experts the average is 62. If you are a ‘Journolist’ maybe 51.


16 posted on 08/01/2010 9:50:34 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: April Lexington
This is just a portion of their Agenda.

They wanted the funding from the carbon trade to further their Global Governance ambitions.

17 posted on 08/01/2010 9:51:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: aquila48

All that, and stop borrowing money to pay for very costly “green” technology.


18 posted on 08/01/2010 9:52:07 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: aquila48
It’s called all of the above and the free market. Now that they’ve admitted they’re frauds and that man made global warming is a crock there’s no need to avoid CO2-emitting fuel!
Yes, and we are of one mind on this issue.
19 posted on 08/01/2010 9:56:42 PM PDT by casuist (Audi alteram partem.)
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To: stubernx98

:D


20 posted on 08/01/2010 10:02:05 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (The new improved version of NUC 1. This version will remember his password.)
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