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Police Said to Taze Grandmother ("Don't taze my Granny!")
Courthouse News ^ | 06-24-2010 | Tim Hull

Posted on 06/25/2010 5:52:09 PM PDT by autumnraine

Police Tasered an 86-year-old disabled grandma in her bed and stepped on her oxygen hose until she couldn't breathe, after her grandson called 911 seeking medical assistance, the woman and her grandson claim in Oklahoma City Federal Court. Though the grandson said, "Don't Taze my granny!" an El Reno police officer told another cop to "Taser her!" and wrote in his police report that he did so because the old woman "took a more aggressive posture in her bed," according to the complaint. Lonnie Tinsley claims that he called 911 after he went to check on his grandmother, whom he found in her bed, "connected to a portable oxygen concentrator with a long hose." She is "in marginal health, [and] takes several prescribed medications daily," and "was unable to tell him exactly when she had taken her meds," so, Tinsley says, he called 911 "to ask for an emergency medical technician to come to her apartment to evaluate her." In response, "as many as ten El Reno police" officers "pushed their way through the door," according to the complaint. The grandma, Lona Varner, "told them to get out of her apartment." The remarkable complaint continues: "Instead, the apparent leader of the police [defendant Thomas Duran] instructed another policeman to 'Taser her!' He stated in his report that the 86 year-old plaintiff 'took a more aggressive posture in her bed,' and that he was fearful for his safety and the safety of others. "Lonnie Tinsley told them, 'Don't taze my Granny!' to which they responded that they would Taser him; instead, they pulled him out of her apartment, took him down to the floor, handcuffed him and placed him in the back of a police car. "The police then proceeded to approach Ms. Varner in her bed and stepped on her oxygen hose until she began to suffer oxygen deprivation. "The police then fired a Taser at her and only one wire struck her, in the left arm; the police then fired a second Taser, striking her to the right and left of the midline of her upper chest and applied high voltage, causing burns to her chest, extreme pain and to pass out. "The police then grabbed Ms. Varner by her forearms and jerked hands together, causing her soft flesh to tear and bleed on her bed; they then handcuffed her. "The police freed Lonnie Tinsley from his incarceration in the back of the police car and permitted him to accompany the ambulance with his grandmother." Tinsley says the cops capped it all off by having his grandmother "placed in the psychiatric ward at the direction of the El Reno police; she was held there for six days and released." "As a result of the wrongful arrest and detention, the plaintiff Lona M. Varner suffered the unlawful restraint of her freedom, bodily injury, assault, battery, the trashing of her apartment, humiliation, loss of personal dignity, infliction of emotional distress and medical bills." They seek punitive damages for constitutional violations, from the City of El Reno, Duran, Officers Frank Tinga and Joseph Sandberg, and 10 Officers Does. They are represented by Brian Dell of Oklahoma City.


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To: autumnraine
(CN) - Police Tasered an 86-year-old disabled grandma in her bed and stepped on her oxygen hose until she couldn't breathe, after her grandson called 911 seeking medical assistance, the woman and her grandson claim in Oklahoma City Federal Court. Though the grandson said, "Don't Taze my granny!" an El Reno police officer told another cop to "Taser her!" and wrote in his police report that he did so because the old woman "took a more aggressive posture in her bed," according to the complaint.

     Lonnie Tinsley claims that he called 911 after he went to check on his grandmother, whom he found in her bed, "connected to a portable oxygen concentrator with a long hose." She is "in marginal health, [and] takes several prescribed medications daily," and "was unable to tell him exactly when she had taken her meds," so, Tinsley says, he called 911 "to ask for an emergency medical technician to come to her apartment to evaluate her."

     In response, "as many as ten El Reno police" officers "pushed their way through the door," according to the complaint.

     The grandma, Lona Varner, "told them to get out of her apartment."

     The remarkable complaint continues: "Instead, the apparent leader of the police [defendant Thomas Duran] instructed another policeman to 'Taser her!' He stated in his report that the 86 year-old plaintiff 'took a more aggressive posture in her bed,' and that he was fearful for his safety and the safety of others.

     "Lonnie Tinsley told them, 'Don't taze my Granny!' to which they responded that they would Taser him; instead, they pulled him out of her apartment, took him down to the floor, handcuffed him and placed him in the back of a police car.

     "The police then proceeded to approach Ms. Varner in her bed and stepped on her oxygen hose until she began to suffer oxygen deprivation.

     "The police then fired a Taser at her and only one wire struck her, in the left arm; the police then fired a second Taser, striking her to the right and left of the midline of her upper chest and applied high voltage, causing burns to her chest, extreme pain and to pass out.

     "The police then grabbed Ms. Varner by her forearms and jerked hands together, causing her soft flesh to tear and bleed on her bed; they then handcuffed her.

     "The police freed Lonnie Tinsley from his incarceration in the back of the police car and permitted him to accompany the ambulance with his grandmother."

     Tinsley says the cops capped it all off by having his grandmother "placed in the psychiatric ward at the direction of the El Reno police; she was held there for six days and released."

     "As a result of the wrongful arrest and detention, the plaintiff Lona M. Varner suffered the unlawful restraint of her freedom, bodily injury, assault, battery, the trashing of her apartment, humiliation, loss of personal dignity, infliction of emotional distress and medical bills."

     They seek punitive damages for constitutional violations, from the City of El Reno, Duran, Officers Frank Tinga and Joseph Sandberg, and 10 Officers Does.

     They are represented by Brian Dell of Oklahoma City. 

21 posted on 06/25/2010 6:04:18 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: tioga
I haven’t read anything this disgusting in awhile. Unbelievable.

Really? I read 3 or 4 "cops are a-holes" threads a day here.

But don't worry. This is just another "rare" and "isolated" example of the 99% giving the 1% a bad name.
22 posted on 06/25/2010 6:06:21 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I must confess that once I saw the number of LEOs involved in the call, I wasn’t surprised at the behavior. Collectively, the will of a lion. You get more than two officers at a house, and they’re gunning for trouble. Even if it’s some guy and his granny.


23 posted on 06/25/2010 6:09:13 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: autumnraine

Having spent time caring for my elderly mother and mother-in-law, the people who did this should be arrested and tried for attempted murder. A person that old should not be treated like that, and any grown-up knows that.


24 posted on 06/25/2010 6:09:42 PM PDT by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: OldDeckHand
Maybe cops on crack taze the elderly.

There's gotta' be more to this story.

25 posted on 06/25/2010 6:10:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: autumnraine

This is one of those cop stories that is too ridiculous to be true ... and yet, after reading about how cops killed a 13 year old Pug dog with 8 rounds, I tend to believe cops would tase an 86 year old bed ridden woman ...


26 posted on 06/25/2010 6:10:19 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: caseinpoint
This report is obviously based solely on the complaint filed by the granny and grandson. It isn’t a balanced report. I would want to know the other side of the story, although it had better be a doozy to justify what they are alleging happened.

While you're right that this is a one-sided report there is at least a chance of some veracity. The police report, on the other hand, will be 100% fiction, 100% guaranteed.
27 posted on 06/25/2010 6:10:26 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: Hank Kerchief

Wonder if Brian Dell knows Officer Neckvein who captured the ambulance driver and the medic?


28 posted on 06/25/2010 6:11:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Filo

I love cops. As an EMT I work with them a lot. I know of NONE who would have done this. None.


29 posted on 06/25/2010 6:18:54 PM PDT by tioga
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To: autumnraine

Just jackbooted morons.They ought to sue the idiot that hired them in the first place.


30 posted on 06/25/2010 6:19:34 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: caseinpoint

“This report is obviously based solely on the complaint filed by the granny and grandson. It isn’t a balanced report. I would want to know the other side of the story, although it had better be a doozy to justify what they are alleging happened.”

Absolutely, give them some time to get their stories straight. :)


31 posted on 06/25/2010 6:19:42 PM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: caseinpoint

Did you miss the part where it said “He stated in his report that the 86 year-old plaintiff ‘took a more aggressive posture in her bed,’ and that he was fearful for his safety and the safety of others.”

I know we would all like to think our men in blue are ALL honorable men (and 95% are), some are just either crazy or idiots.


32 posted on 06/25/2010 6:21:11 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf aInd dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Krankor

No, if this were my grandmother, I’d be in jail for beating the crap out of some cops.


33 posted on 06/25/2010 6:22:14 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf aInd dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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The article is very misleading.

The event happened in December, 6 months ago.

The 911 call stated that the woman was threatening to commit suicide — left out of the article, — and that’s why police responded. It was not a medical call, it was a suicide/knife call.

She did threaten to kill herself, with a knife, and she was turning the knife on herself in the presence of the police — the police were trying to prevent her from doing that.

There should not have been a taser involved — agreed. The rest is very misleading.


34 posted on 06/25/2010 6:22:27 PM PDT by WL-law
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To: autumnraine

“...the police Tasered an 86-year-old disabled grandma in her bed
after she “took a more aggressive posture in her bed”,
and the police feared for their safety...”
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I hate cops.
I really do.


35 posted on 06/25/2010 6:22:28 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (If November does not turn out well, then beware of December.)
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To: muawiyah

If them cops did that to my grandmother I would be waiting outside there house one evening and give them a 2X4 right between the eyes. That is the ultimate act of cowardliness.I support law enforcement officers, tough job but cases like this does not help


36 posted on 06/25/2010 6:23:17 PM PDT by wild74
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To: Filo

Don’t know about the 100% fiction in the police report. I see, with independent research, that the police report stated they were called in initially on the suspicion that she was a potential suicide by overdose. It states when she saw the cops she pulled a knife from under her mattress and threatened to kill anyone who came near her. I don’t see that she threatened to knife herself and I don’t know if a possibility that she was about to expire from drug overdose justifies the tasering but there are certainly two sides of the story. I tend to think there is some fudging on both sides of most debates.

I guess the court has a factual issue to resolve here but I wouldn’t string up the cops automatically.


37 posted on 06/25/2010 6:23:27 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: autumnraine

I know it’s usually not a good idea to rely on only one side’s version of an incident. This story as posted is a recap of the plaintiff’s lawsuit complaint. That document always states the plaintiff’s version in the strongest terms possible. It’s why lawsuits rely on an answer to the complaint, along with lots of evidence to back up the allegations in the complaint and answer.


38 posted on 06/25/2010 6:29:19 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: WL-law
The article is very misleading. The event happened in December, 6 months ago. The 911 call stated that the woman was threatening to commit suicide — left out of the article, — and that’s why police responded. It was not a medical call, it was a suicide/knife call. She did threaten to kill herself, with a knife, and she was turning the knife on herself in the presence of the police — the police were trying to prevent her from doing that. There should not have been a taser involved — agreed. The rest is very misleading.

Thank you.

It's sad that so many FReepers will believe anything provided that it puts cops in a bad light.

39 posted on 06/25/2010 6:30:27 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: autumnraine

Sounds reprehensible... but I’d also like to hear the Police side of things. I’ve learned that when you read such stories, the author didn’t make much of an effort for the opposing side’s story, or was somehow invested in it.


40 posted on 06/25/2010 6:31:26 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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