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we were warned...........
1 posted on 06/09/2010 5:42:35 PM PDT by Doogle
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right.. it’s a living breathing document to shape however the anti-americans want to.


2 posted on 06/09/2010 5:44:16 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: Doogle; wagglebee

Someone needs to now abuse wagglebee for a duplicate post. LOL!


3 posted on 06/09/2010 5:47:10 PM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Doogle

I wrote this a while back; it’s similar in its thought-process; but on the flip-side of being from the governance POV.


There’s some silly notions that are circulating among people about governance; things like: - Words mean things - Constitutions are a form of legally binding documents - Constitutions should be changed only by the appropriate amendment process and - Constitutions actually matter to those in governance.

Let’s look at this properly, shall we, if words actually meant things we might actually be forced to be culpable for anything we say; but, because words are so mutable, we have an ‘escape hatch’ to use should any of our peons (commonly called ‘constituents’) try to “use our own words against us.”

There is nothing worse than an uppity peon forcing one to think or apply these horrible Black Arts known as Reasoning & Logic. By eliminating any solid definition or meaning from words we simply bypass this fiendish trap.

Furthermore, when these peons attempt to apply Reasoning & Logic to Our Glorious Plans - analogous to mixing magic and science (or perhaps Religion and Government) - the result almost invariably makes Us look bad. This is plainly unacceptable, because as everyone knows: Perception is Reality; to besmirch Us by making Us look foolish these peons undermine how we are Perceived and thereby threaten Our very existence!

Along a similar line of perception is that ‘constitutions’ are ‘legally binding.’ This is related to them believing that words mean things and is utterly preposterous. Take this portion of the United States Constitution as an example: “No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.”

We pass Bills of Attainder and Ex Post Facto laws all the time! Take the retroactive taxation of bonus monies of the recipients of the ‘Bailout,’ it was both ex post facto & a Bill of Attainder. Take the laws we passed barring firearm ownership from felons who have served their sentences, or the upgrading of misdemeanors to felonies. The peons would never have thought such things to be either right or allowable if the Constitution actually meant what it says; and yet now we have a large segment of peons which vigorously defend these policies! This is truly progress.

This brings us to the subject of changing constitutions; the concept of ‘amending’ a constitution is extraordinarily outdated. It helps that constitutions are not legally binding, as we can change the procedures or laws to anything we wish, even if it is something that is ‘prohibited’ by the constitution. Take Amendment 4 of the US Constitution as an example, it reads: “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

If that actually meant anything, we couldn’t send out SWAT teams to raid a house with a ‘No Knock Warrant’ as this amendment says that people are supposed to be secure in their homes from ‘unreasonable searches.’ The peons that argue against our methods will say that it is unreasonable to burst into someone’s home without announcing oneself and search and seize as we see fit. Others would point out that it perscribes that warrants must “particularly describ[e] the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

Another good example is the sixth amendment to the US Constitution, it reads: “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.‘

Yet when was the last time you heard of anyone having a Jury Trial for speeding or a ‘parking violation?’ The fools think that this actually entitles them to some sort of defense when it’s obvious that Our mere accusation is proof enough of guilt for punishments; just look at our highly-successful legal team at the IRS.

So, my Fellow Rulers, do not fear the peons that belong to this so called ‘Tea Party.’ They respect the laws, which we can change at the merest whim. They are so enthralled that they would beg for Our control if they found themselves without us; it is only natural for some pets to become jealous of other pets that receive more attention than they do. Keep a firm and steady hand in the application of Discipline ant the problem will resolve itself in due course.


4 posted on 06/09/2010 5:48:05 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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“This book is a product of its time and does not reflect the same values as it would if it were written today.”

BULL SH*T! These values ARE the same values needed (and believed on today); these publishers are out of step of reality*!


5 posted on 06/09/2010 5:48:09 PM PDT by JSDude1
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retract the statements or we BOYCOTT Wilder Publications!


7 posted on 06/09/2010 5:48:40 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: Doogle

I guess you all missed the news... “We’re ALL Socialists Now” and of course we don’t want the baby pinkos learing about the day when men were free. /sarc


9 posted on 06/09/2010 5:51:15 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: Doogle

as they should be.


10 posted on 06/09/2010 5:51:26 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: Doogle

I like Walter Williams philosophy. We offer to play poker with these people under “living rules” that we write on the spot.

Sure my hand of random mixed cards beats your full house. Now pay up with your house and pension.


12 posted on 06/09/2010 5:54:15 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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ping


13 posted on 06/09/2010 5:55:56 PM PDT by lonevoice (If Fox News is the only outlet reporting it, did it really happen?)
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To: Doogle

I’m too pizzed to say anything more.


15 posted on 06/09/2010 6:11:24 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Doogle

time to put on the slappin’ gloves...


16 posted on 06/09/2010 6:16:34 PM PDT by bigbob
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“we were warned........... “

Well, it IS a dangerous document, especially to the government.


17 posted on 06/09/2010 6:18:10 PM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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Burn the publisher down... tar and feather the bastid.

LLS


20 posted on 06/09/2010 6:28:27 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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nitwits selling reprints to make a little jingle and oh, must be culturally diverse so the company sucks from the ooutset... don’t buy something that is free.


21 posted on 06/09/2010 6:31:29 PM PDT by BamaAndy
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To: Doogle

What a stupid thing to do.


22 posted on 06/09/2010 6:31:41 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Doogle

Wilder Pub’s

Baby-PreK 0
Ages 4-8 0
Ages 9-12 15
Young Adult 4
(Unknown) 31
All Ages 12

...interesting age grouping, probably Bill Ayers has something to do with them...*schruggs*...donno


24 posted on 06/09/2010 7:00:32 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: Doogle

Pinging for awesomeness.


26 posted on 06/09/2010 7:40:32 PM PDT by HushTX (get over it.)
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ping


27 posted on 06/09/2010 8:19:39 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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You can see the picture here:

Disclaiming the Constitution

http://noisyroom.net/blog/2010/06/08/disclaiming-the-constitution/


29 posted on 06/09/2010 9:32:33 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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“This book is a product of its time and does not reflect the same values as it would if it were written today.”

I thought "One Flew Over the Cukoo's Nest" was only a book ...

30 posted on 06/09/2010 10:13:38 PM PDT by Lmo56
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