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Joran van der Sloot charged with extrortion in Natalie Holloway case
WMBF News ^ | 06/03/10

Posted on 06/03/2010 2:46:02 PM PDT by freespirited

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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

The big break I’d like to see in the case is his neck.


41 posted on 06/03/2010 4:42:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: freespirited
The welcoming committee at the prison has been notified of Joran’s arrival. They are planning a grand celebration!
42 posted on 06/03/2010 4:43:03 PM PDT by zeaal
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To: Doc Savage

It isn’t style. It’s gibberish. Thus ‘practice law’, ‘interpret the law’. It takes a heck of a lot of practice to interpret.

Why did New Jersey get all the toxic waste and New York got all the lawyers?

New jersey got first pick.


43 posted on 06/03/2010 4:49:15 PM PDT by bigheadfred (I said free association. Not freely associate.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wasn’t there an article on FR yesterday talking about this guy’s suicide? Or am I hallucinating again.....


44 posted on 06/03/2010 5:02:35 PM PDT by milagro
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To: freespirited

My question is this: Is this some type FBI sting where the FBI provided the $15,000 down payment then let Van der Sloot escape to South America. Holder’s FBI paid for the murder of the Peruvian girl?


45 posted on 06/03/2010 6:14:34 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Flip Both Houses)
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To: hennie pennie

The FBI?


46 posted on 06/03/2010 6:20:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Flip Both Houses)
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To: pepsionice
And the girl that vanish while in his company before he even met Natalie...?

I know! Miss Cleo called and told the Holloways that Natalie would be murdered by Joran van der Sloot. So the year before they arranged for another girl to go out with him and then arranged for her to slip off to Brazil for Plastic Surgery and now she goes by the name Lady GaGa.

Wow!

That is BRILLENT!

47 posted on 06/03/2010 6:29:18 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (there are huge chunks of time...at night...where I'm just asleep...for hours...it's ridiculous....)
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To: milagro

That article was inaccurate, based on anonymous Twitter posts that were a hoax.


48 posted on 06/03/2010 6:31:16 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Doc Savage

“I love how lawyers talk. How did they ever develop that style? So strange.”

Yes, strange. But in order to convict someone of a crime you have to allege that every jot and tittle of the law has been satisfied. Thus, they basically quote the law as written and allege it has been wholly violated by the defendant. As to the “On or about”, that is defensive so a defendant can’t claim the act in question happened at 12:01 am the following day instead of 11:59 the day before. Any defect in pleading can at least delay the process as you seek to amend it. So the pleading is as inclusive as possible. It’s an art, a lousy art but an art.


49 posted on 06/03/2010 6:39:14 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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This was posting no. 336 on the extended discussion thread:

Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread #21 ---- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2526320/posts

>>> "GRETA WIRE

Print Share - + June 3, 2010 | 5:51 PM ET

VERY BAD SITUATION - APPEARS THE FBI DROPPED THE BALL and YOUNG WOMAN IS DEAD.... Beth Holloway was extorted. Joran van der Sloot took money from her and used it to finance his trip to South America where it is now believed he murdered.

Beth Holloway wanted to know what happened to her daughter. Joran van der Sloot said he would tell her if she paid him. She brought in the FBI. The events happened in Aruba.

The FBI, as early as May 10, knew they had a case against Joran van der Sloot for wire fraud and extortion but failed to act until today. Had they arrested him when they had the case against him, May 10, he would not have had the money to travel to South America and murder.

The FBI and the Aruba police were both involved in the events beginning before May 10.

There are many unanswered questions and it appears this second murder was preventable had van der Sloot been arrested. The FBI has a lot of explaining to do. Why did they wait? What did they know and when? Why were they not at least following him? They knew he committed a crime as of May 10.

And now Beth Holloway's money was used - extorted - to make the unthinkable happen."

50 posted on 06/03/2010 6:45:36 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Thanks for the ping.


51 posted on 06/03/2010 6:55:11 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Mike Darancette
My question is this: Is this some type FBI sting where the FBI provided the $15,000 down payment then let Van der Sloot escape to South America. Holder’s FBI paid for the murder of the Peruvian girl?

I could see law enforcement being in on the "payment" for info. But paying for the murder of this innocent Peruvian woman, I just don't see it. Joran's behavior is consistent with his suspected MO; drugging women for sex and their death following within hours.

52 posted on 06/03/2010 7:00:45 PM PDT by freespirited (There are a lot of bad Republicans but there are no good Democrats.--Ann Coulter)
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I presume that Greta will discuss this on her show, but really, it is simply SO vile, SO utterly nightmarish to imagine the FBI paying Joran which enables him to get to Lima, Peru where he murders Stephany -- that I don't think I can watch Greta tonight.

The whole thing is just so inconceivably ugly, I simply can't imagine what Beth Twitty is thinking & feeling about now.....

53 posted on 06/03/2010 7:01:07 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Another Obastard fail.


54 posted on 06/03/2010 7:22:42 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Since he got away with murder once, he thought he could do it again. And on the 5th anniversary of the disappearance of Natalie Holloway no less.

Is not his Dad very dead and therefore not in a position to protect Joran anymore?

55 posted on 06/03/2010 10:03:58 PM PDT by pray4liberty (dare I say it?)
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To: pepsionice
And va der Sloot awakens from some drug episode, to find a dead body in his room...and the necessity to escape as soon as possible.

Those thoughts occurred to me too, but I think it is much more probable that he is a serial killer and did to Miss Flores what he did to Natalie. It is possible he is possessed, he may have blacked out during an episode and has no memory of what he did--but will be held responsible for it just the same. He's going to be locked up for keeps this time.

56 posted on 06/03/2010 10:11:11 PM PDT by pray4liberty (dare I say it?)
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June 3, 2010

NOTE The following text is a quote:

http://birmingham.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel10/bh_060310.htm

Joran van der Sloot Charged with Fraud and Extortion in Birmingham

BIRMINGHAM—Federal prosecutors in Birmingham have filed a criminal complaint against JORAN VAN DER SLOOT, a citizen of the Netherlands, on wire fraud and extortion charges in connection with his soliciting money in May on promises he would reveal the location of Natalee Holloway’s remains in Aruba and circumstances of her death, U.S. Attorney Joyce White Vance and FBI Special Agent in Charge Patrick Maley announced today.

“We are committed to protecting citizens from unscrupulous individuals who attempt to financially exploit a person’s deepest fears and greatest loss,” Vance said.

The wire fraud and extortion charges are unrelated to the ongoing murder investigation in Peru, in which van der Sloot is an alleged person of interest.

Vance said her office filed the two-count criminal complaint today in U.S. District Court in Birmingham.

The complaint charges that van der Sloot, on May 10, extorted $15,000 from an individual as partial payment toward his promise to reveal the location of Natalee Holloway’s remains for $250,000. The maximum sentence on the extortion count is 20 years in prison.

The complaint also charges van der Sloot with wire fraud for causing the $15,000 to be transferred by wire from a Birmingham bank to a bank in the Netherlands in furtherance of his scheme to defraud. The maximum sentence for the wire fraud count is 30 years.

Vance thanked Aruban authorities for the assistance they provided in this investigation.

Members of the public are reminded that the criminal complaint contains only charges. A defendant is presumed not guilty.


57 posted on 06/05/2010 2:16:19 AM PDT by Cindy
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