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To: savagesusie
I didn't intend to offend you or anyone else who works for the government or Merck.

Who works for the government or Merck? Be specific.

I didn't even intend to offend physicians or scientists who get a percentage of the profits from promoting drugs and vaccines to their patients.

Or physicians who fabricate data and don't disclose conflicts of interest?

Was it fabricated evidence? Really?

Yes. Really.

Do you think the judge was bribed?

What judge?

Then THEY cite his "fraudulent" study and yadda yadda yadda. They never argue the facts.

The fact that he only had 12 children in his study? The fact that he falsified elements of the manuscript?

BUT, there needs to be transparency on this vaccine issue.

If Wakefield had been transparent, think of the lives that would have been saved.

I don't understand why you get so angry when all I am saying is that there are too many vaccinations given to little babies.

Because you've shown so little understanding of the issue so far.

They are guinea pigs and you must know it deep inside because you are so agitated.

Liars getting children killed agitates me for some reason.

There have been doctors who have had their own children come down with Autism and their tests have shown outrageous amounts of aluminum and mercury in their brains.

I asked you for a source for this claim way back in post #107, did you have one?

NONE of my babies got the Hep B vaccine (5). None of them ever had flu vaccinations. None of them ever had Chicken Pox Vaccinations, etc. etc. They are all healthy young adults.

Did they get the MMR shots?

114 posted on 05/25/2010 12:53:20 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Fraudulent?????? And you think Wakefield is fraudulent--compared to big pharma and their studies????? HA HA HA

Damaging the BRAINS of our future generation is EVIL!!!!

Flaws in studies??????? Bribes and big pharma???YES!!!: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6890106663412840646#

http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/death.htm

Liars getting children killed agitates me for some reason. Absolutely, and the big pharma and ignorant doctors and scientist are covering up and lying to the public and knowingly damaging brains and killing baby and teenage girls and don't even get me started on the swine flu vaccine. What a joke!

How about vaccines killing babies and teenage girls????: http://www.rense.com/general57/ddee.htm

115 posted on 05/25/2010 6:25:49 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Flawed logic:

You want people to have no freedom to decide what is best for them or their children. You want doctors and pharmaceuticals companies to decide and then government to force whatever it is the "professionals" and government decide. (Never in history has there been any governments or organizations who wants to sterilize (Holder) and kill off masses of people-- no, no, never).

Then you demand the right to inject into people's bodies (ultimate private property violation) whatever is deemed "best" knowingly injecting harmful ingredients, even if people decide that the risks are not justified. (Definition of fascism.)

"What if's" aren't relevant in a lot of cases, and again, if you want a free society, you can not have it. It violates everything this country was founded on.

You are talking about an "utopian" fascist world that has been aptly described in a book....A Brave New World.

Pharmaceutical companies need to educate the populace, not steam-roller them, into their views. Keep an open debate....don't silence people who disagree, debate them and don't do the Beck, Rush, Alinskyiting tactics with scientists who disagree.

Truth usually has a gut ring about it and people usually will come to the right decision for them and their children. That is why no transparency and secret meetings and keeping knowledge of lawsuits from the public are downright evil. Because they are NOT being transparent and DON'T argue the claims, they are extremely suspect.

Hey, here's a radical Jeffersonian thought for you: Pediatricians that recommend new-born infants get a Hep B shot without an infected mother, should be removed from the medical field because they have absolutely no understanding of toxins and babies brains and neurological diseases, or if they do they are knowingly causing harm to a patient.

Look up the Amish and Autism. Look up the symptoms of mercury poisoning and Autism--I did, and I would swear that the children fed contaminated fish were Autistic. They had same mannerism, same lack of connection with their loved ones.... Isn't that silly to think that there are a few powerful elites in the world that may be making money off of a very sick and dysfunctional society. Absolutely no motives there, is there. Power never corrupts and didn't the Founding Fathers say that governments were "good".

Actually, the Founders were geniuses and they said that governments were a "necessary evil". Did you forget that most important concept of theirs? That's why power was given to the people, not government and corporations. What do you not understand about fundamental rights--yes, that is also the right to be stupid and uninformed.

119 posted on 05/26/2010 8:34:25 AM PDT by savagesusie
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