Astronomer Copernicus reburied as hero in Poland

AP ^ | May 22, 2010 | VANESSA GERA, Associated Press Writer

[stormer]

SPQR is probably more common today than it was when Caesar governed - it's on everything from manhole covers to police cars.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Oops! It seems my fallible fingers hit "post" when I was aiming for "preview". Well!

It fits into what I intended to say as my conclusion: that I see "The Galileo Affair" much as Koestler and Huxley do, as a drama in which pride and miscomprehension played a major part on both sides (the fallible Pope Urban and the fallible Galileo), and which was later rather cartoonishly exploited as an exhibit in the Punch & Judy Museum of Intellectual History.

A couple of sources (off the tips of my fallible fingers):

http://clericalwhispers.blogspot.com/2009/08/was-galileo-guilty-contribution.html

http://www.contra-mundum.org/schirrmacher/galileo.pdf

http://tinyurl.com/bellarmine-hypothesis

Johnston, George Sim. “The Galileo Affair.” (Princeton, NJ: Scepter Press)

In goodwill, and hoping always for a fruitful reading of history....

[colorado tanker]

Frombork seems a nice little town. Guess there's nothing much to do there, though, other than unlock the secrets of the Solar System.

[Finalapproach29er]

thanks for the clarification on Galileo

[the invisib1e hand]

Screw AP. If someone would like to cite a reliable reference that discusses the relationship between Copernicus and the Church, and other scientists of his time, I'd be grateful.

[deadrock]

Engaging in revisionist history is sickening.

That is the CC specialty and it would not exist without it.

What next? Pope Alessandro VI was a peaceful pope and his son Borgia was a misunderstood baker.

And in a 100 years, CC followers will be all denying that there was ever pedophile priests.

[Pyro7480]

Let he is without sin cast the first stone.

[deadrock]

I just did.

[Pyro7480]

That is the CC specialty and it would not exist without it.

From your profile:

"My argument with the Catholic Church (CC) vis-à-vis its direct and indirect support of a perpetual expanding government, which in turn has a direct and indirect effect on birth rates (clashing with its admirable stance on abortion), should not be construed (as some on FR may infer) that I somehow disregard all and anything good and positive the CC does for ordinary people living their ordinary lives."

It looks like your argument with the Catholic Church goes beyond the above. It's time to be a bit more honest.

[Pyro7480]

So you’re without sin? LOL

[deadrock]

And your not? Then stop casting stones.

[Pyro7480]

"There is no question here respecting forms of government, for there is no reason why the Church should not approve of the chief power being held by one man or by more, provided only it be just, and that it tend to the common advantage. Wherefore, so long as justice be respected, the people are not hindered from choosing for themselves that form of government which suits best either their own disposition, or the institutions and customs of their ancestors."

-Pope Leo XIII, Encyclical Diuturnum, 29 June 1881

[Pyro7480]

I’m only replying to your posts.

[SunkenCiv]

Mork was also Frombork.

[Lorica]

thanks!

[SuziQ]

Astronomy ping!