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Hardball "Chicago-style Politics" may have originated with Abraham Lincoln.
1 posted on 05/22/2010 2:31:12 PM PDT by AlanD
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To: AlanD

Cynics do well in politics. It will always be so.


2 posted on 05/22/2010 2:36:41 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Let me be clear. The voluntary pancipation of Cinco de Quatro is mandated in all 57 states.)
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To: AlanD

Most of what we know about Lincoln today has been invented by Northern folklorists, many who were, and are, enemies of the South. In fact, nearly every one of the 16,000 books that have been penned about Lincoln are by Northern writers and have been published by Northern publishers. Can we honestly expect to get a true and unbiased picture of who Lincoln really was from such works?


3 posted on 05/22/2010 2:43:01 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: AlanD
Lincoln won less than 40% of the popular vote in a 4-way race. He only won the Northern states, plus California and Oregon. If the southern vote was not split 3 ways, he would have lost, and the Civil War would have been avoided (or at least deferred).
12 posted on 05/22/2010 3:52:42 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: AlanD

You’re a Scott Brown loving troll.


14 posted on 05/22/2010 4:03:43 PM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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Dixie ping


46 posted on 05/23/2010 7:51:56 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: AlanD
Hardball "Chicago-style Politics" may have originated with Abraham Lincoln.

Early Nineteenth Century politics -- whether in big cities or on the frontier -- was a rough, bareknuckles affair.

That was already going on when Lincoln came on the scene.

58 posted on 05/23/2010 1:01:21 PM PDT by x
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“his meteoric rise from prairie lawyer to chief executive “

The first lie is that Lincoln was just a humble man born in a log cabin. He was far from it. He was known as perhaps the top lawyer in the Midwest and had argued before the US Supreme Court and the Illinois Supreme Court many times. He was a tough negotiator and no one of the time thought of him as some backward ass humble county bumpkin.

He was in bed with the railroads which were the big startup companies of the day. Far from humble.


61 posted on 05/23/2010 1:13:51 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: AlanD

Abraham Lincoln...for when it’s too old to blame on Bush.


63 posted on 05/23/2010 1:17:10 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: AlanD; stainlessbanner; Non-Sequitur
I'm not sure how many of you actually watch "Uncommon Knowledge" on National Review's website, but I ran across this 5 part series from Harry Jaffa on Lincoln. Peter Robinson asks what would have been different if the CSA had won, and Jaffa responds "well, what if the Southern States had sided with the Nazis in WW II?"

The first thing I thought of when I saw that was "boy, that's the one question that can start an epic flame war on FR."

70 posted on 05/23/2010 2:10:08 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (<----Click over there for a special message from GOP_Raider)
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