[red flanker]

After the recent controversy with the Connecticut candidate discovered making false or embellished claims of his military service record, it turns out that California Assemblyman Chuck Devore may have a similar problem.

The probelm Devore has is that former ABC News correspondent (currently a research fellow at hte distinguished Hoover Institution) Bob Zelnick was also in the Lebanon Syria border area and has a different take of the facts. "Nothing I saw or experienced could reasonably be interpreted as our having been driven off the hill by Syrian fire," he said. Other military claims by Devore such as being involved in the Gulf War is tempered by the fact while he may want us to believe he was in the Middle East, it turns out that Devore was perhaps in Middle East California for all the Gulf Wars. So it seems that Devore is perhaps a cross between Dan Quayle and Hillary Clinton (Bosnian sniper victim).

[streetpreacher]

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[centurion316]

Where do we find these losers?

[skr]

Any quotes?

[JimWayne]

What about Hillary coming under fire in Bosnia or Kosovo or wherever?

[Parley Baer]

I guess it is all over. Looks like either Boxer or the RINO’s win. sarc

[Political Junkie Too]

He spoke during the debate of being "shot at in Lebanon"

Is this like how Hillary Clinton was shot at on the tarmac in Bosnia?

-PJ

[Maelstorm]

This is a very ugly attempt to smear DeVore. He never has said he was anything but a reservist. He has been deployed and he admitted he’d been shot at in Lebannon as a college student. This article is clearly crafted to suggest DeVore claimed something about his military service that he never has. It reminds me of the attacks on Fred Thompson. If we are going to accept this kind of crap hit piece let’s see one on Fiorina and deals with Iran or Campbell and his pushing for funding for UN population control. Chuck DeVore is a principled conservative and this is a really shameful attack with roots in the Fiorina campaign.

[pissant]

The problem you have is your head is your head is up your ass.

[Maelstorm]

Here is a recent interview with Duncan Hunter where he acknowledged Chuck’s work on the SDI program and spoke very positive of him.
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-bloggers/2509921/posts

[CounterCounterCulture]

Anybody who believes this smear deserves another six years of Barbara Boxer.

[pissant]

might be of interest

[onyx]

Did the LAT change the headline sunce you posted the article?.... because it now reads,

Chuck DeVore has a staunch conservative record

[maine-iac7]

These people sicken me - from Kerry to Murtha to what's his name, the one in the wheelchair - and now Blumenthal and DeVore - all claiming to be some kind of military heroes - even the ones that WERE in the war zone, like Kerry - his story is disgusting...Knowing that 3 times wounded, you could demand to get out...so he saw to it he had 3 ‘wounds’ and had to DEMAND a band aid for one scratch.

It's so demeaning to our REAL troops.

None of these lily livers would last 5 minutes with my grandson's platoon - heck, they wouldn't even last long enough to make the initial trek up the mountain to the firebase.

The upcoming movie “Restrepo” should be required showing in both the Congress and the Senate and full attendance mandatory.

These men were ‘out there’ on a 15 month deployment, no running water let alone hot water, no hot food - often one MRE a day, no showers or change of clothes for 5 weeks at a time - and they were in over 1,000 (NOT typo) firefights. (and as I write this, they are back in Afghanistan - with the new ROE written to protect the Taliban over our soldiers. Bad enough they were restricted from shooting until shot at - now they're supposed to refrain from even that! Think I'm kidding. GOOGLE it.

These politicians disgust me -

http://restrepothemovie.com/

Watch for it...if you miss it at the theater, it will be on Nat’l Geo in the fall. GOGGLE for reviews...

written and produced by Sebastian Junger (Perfect Storm) and prize winning photojournalist, Tim Hetherington, who both spent 5 months embedded with them in “The Most Dangerous Place on Earth” - took top award at Sundance “Grand Jury Award”

and Sebastian's book about it just came out: “WAR”

http://www.amazon.com/WAR-Sebastian-Junger/dp/0446556246/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274411143&sr=8-1

these politicians - I spit in their faces

[gwilhelm56]

Drag out the GOP CIRCULAR FIRING SQUAD.

I want 2 more corroborating sources before I’ll believe the MSM ...period

[Mariner]

"Those are the kinds of things that will turn veterans off immediately,"

That is ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

I hope the DeVore campaign can rebut these charges, because if they can't this guy is even less like to have a chance than he was.

I do know that if something doesn't change, Tom Campbell will be the GOP nominee and that would be wholesale disaster.

[FTJM]

Throughout the campaign, DeVore has emphasized his service as a military officer and a young Reagan White House appointee at the Pentagon as experiences that helped make him the most qualified candidate. But at times he appears to have overstated those accomplishments, particularly his experience under fire and his role in the development of a U.S.-Israeli anti-ballistic-missile defense program. He also has faced criticism for acting on behalf of a group with ties to political contributors. ...

He spoke during the debate of being "shot at in Lebanon" but did not make clear that the shooting occurred in the 1980s while DeVore was a college student studying Arabic and other subjects in the Middle East. Nor did he note that while the shooting was in his vicinity, there was no indication he was a target or was in actual danger.

The story confirms that he was shot at. When else would he have been shot at in Lebanon other than the 80s? This is some standard the LA Times has for politicians now. Full and absolute disclosure when making a comment about something that actually happened. The irony is that he was a REPORTER. The press loves reporters who "bravely put themselves in harm's way for the truth".

Words games aside, it appears that the Arrow funding was his idea and that it was successfully funded, quite an accomplishment for a 25 year old working at the Pentagon.

[CalTexan]

The LA Slimes??

[CounterCounterCulture]

Streaming —
http://chuckdevore.com/n/blog.asp?artid=309&headline=Gunfire-audio
File download —
http://chuckdevore.com/DeVore_in_Lebanon_OCT_84.m4a.zip

First things first: Willon, and several outlets citing him, have linked the
Lebanon anecdote to Chuck DeVore’s description of his military service.
Indeed, Willon quotes “Frank Dowse, a Fiorina supporter and a retired
20-year Marine veteran ... [who] said any attempt by DeVore — subtle or not
— to imply that the Lebanon incident was related to his military service ‘is
a bad move.’”

Well, Chuck DeVore agrees. That’s why he’s never done anything like that.
The truth is that Willon’s account of DeVore’s mention of Lebanon in the
March 5th debate on KTKZ is inaccurate. The full transcript of that debate
is here:

http://hoguenews.com/?p=8553

In it, DeVore mentions Lebanon twice. Neither mention states nor implies
that he was in Lebanon as part of his military experience. Again, these are
long quotes, but it’s important to print them in full. First:

[-BEGIN QUOTE-]

DEVORE: Well, I think the most important thing in this discussion is what
is best served for the United States’ national security interest. Clearly,
we have allies in the region, and clearly Israel is one of those allies.
And, I think perhaps more Israel is a friend of the United States. I support
moving the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem when the Israelis say
that it is safe and appropriate to do so. Furthermore, I’m skeptical of a
two state solution. I am also skeptical that there is anything intrinsically
appropriate about the current boundaries between Israel and the territories
of Judea and Samaria. Because, all that is a cease fire line from the 1948
conflict where the combined Arab armies tried to erase Israel from the map.
And, of course, Israel took over what’s now known as the West Bank in the
1967 war. interestingly enough, prior to 1967, when Jordan had
administration over that part of the soil, they administered it, it was part
of Jordan, Jordan was called
trans-Jordan at that time as a result. And, Jordan actually tried to erase
every last bit of Jewish presence in the Jewish quarter in Jerusalem during
the period 1948-1967. These are things that I know personally. I have been
to that region four times. I have been shot at in Lebanon. I’m quite
familiar with the history of this region, and I believe that American
national interest are served when we support Israel, because generally
speaking, generally speaking, Israel’s’ foes are our foes.

[-END QUOTE-]

Second:

[-BEGIN QUOTE-]

HOGUE: In talking about national security, foreign affairs, terrorism, I’d
like this cross fire here to encompass everything. Toward you Tom, as far as
being anti-Israel, HP and printers to Iran. You’re running for U.S. Senate,
you’re going to represent the country in the Senate in the midst of a war on
terrorism that continues. Why are you the best suited for the position and
why are your opponents not as good as you? And Chuck we’ll start with you.
And it’s a free for all so jump in as you can folks.

DEVORE: Well, as I mentioned before, I am the sole candidate on either
side of the aisle with military experience. I’m a lieutenant colonel of
military intelligence within the U.S. army. This is something that I am
proud to have served my nation since 1983, I also worked for Caspar
Weinberger in the Pentagon where as a special assistant for foreign affairs
and in that capacity traveled on official business to Morocco, Egypt, Turkey
and Pakistan. I have been to Israel 4 times, I’ve studied in Egypt, I’ve
been shot at in Lebanon, I’ve experienced the gritty reality of the Middle
East. This has, I think, given me good insight into the present conflict in
the Middle East. I studied Islamic political thought in Cairo, Egypt. And at
one time I was relatively proficient in Arabic. I understand some of these
concepts that the jihadis hold, like the concept of Darralislam or
Darralharb or the wordlist [indecipherable] sphere Islamic peace or the
wordlist [indecipherable] sphere of Islamic
infidels and how that can be externalized to justify jihad. And I think that
in today’s present environment, I’m the candidate that understands the
stakes in the region. I do stand behind Israel and the right to defend
themselves. In fact, if Iran fires a missile at Israel, the system that
Israel will use to defend itself, the aero anti-tactical ballistic missile,
I helped create the funding mechanism that made that a reality back in 1987.

[-END QUOTE-]