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Was The Market Mayhem A Mistake? Maybe Not.
Forbes ^ | May 7, 2010 - 2:13 pm | Liz Moyer

Posted on 05/07/2010 9:07:54 PM PDT by SmokingJoe

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Where the fat finger at?



1 posted on 05/07/2010 9:07:54 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

I said this from the start. The “fat finger” nonsense had nothing to do with the plunge. The e-mini S&P’s came under assault with massive sell orders as Greece got out of hand, the yen carry-trade unwound violently, the Euro was plunging, and Trichet had nothing new to say. That in turn triggered massive basket selling. And then the computers got out of the way, leaving no bid in the market.


2 posted on 05/07/2010 9:15:25 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: SmokingJoe

Computers buying and selling to each other at the speed of light. Pre-programmed to do certain things at certain points. WOW! Hi my name is Hal.

What are you doing Dave...Dave...Dave what are you doing


3 posted on 05/07/2010 9:16:02 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (S)
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You mean some one did NOT place an order for billions of shares of Proctor Gamble rather than millions? Also have they confirmed the false rumor that the European banks had shut down because of Greece?


4 posted on 05/07/2010 9:17:01 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: screaminsunshine

LOL!


5 posted on 05/07/2010 9:20:54 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

6 posted on 05/07/2010 9:23:48 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: gleeaikin

If this shows nothing more, it shows that the whole global house of economic cards is just one bad bottle of Tequila away from all our anarchy.


7 posted on 05/07/2010 9:25:05 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: SmokingJoe

Someone big shorted the market...and cashed in.


8 posted on 05/07/2010 9:28:00 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Liberals are educated above their level of intelligence.. Thanks Sr. Angelica)
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“Data from Interactive Brokers shows 48,000 worth of June S&P 500 puts taken out at or minutes before 2:30 Thursday. The stock market dive began at 2:40 and went as far as 998 before recovering to close down 347 points for the day”

And Martha Stewart went to jail for what.....?


9 posted on 05/07/2010 9:32:54 PM PDT by Joyell
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Can Someone Explain The HUGE Volume Spike In Accenture An Hour Before It Hit $.01?

http://www.businessinsider.com/check-out-this-huge-volume-spike-in-accentures-stock-a-full-hour-beofre-the-infamous-1-cent-bid-2010-5


10 posted on 05/07/2010 9:43:08 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: SmokingJoe

Looks like Lymphangitis.


11 posted on 05/07/2010 9:55:07 PM PDT by Wiggins
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Obama and his merry men are going to use this as a reason why the Finance Bill should be passed. Their reasoning will be, “government in control acting as watchdogs and this type of thing will never happen”. Right./sarcasm off


12 posted on 05/07/2010 10:11:15 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
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I know this will sound silly, but wouldn’t it make sense to have basic verifications built into the trading process? You know, little things that prevent you from selling shares you don’t have and buying shares with cash that doesn’t exist?


13 posted on 05/07/2010 10:23:36 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 393)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I agree.

Markets price assets on a moment-to-moment basis. The efficient market hypothesis is not an immutable law of nature. No one wants to admit the obvious, that for a few minutes no one was willing to buy. Those prices were real.

The implications are ominous. We had better throw the bums out in November and get off the fast track to the United States of Greece.

14 posted on 05/07/2010 10:35:42 PM PDT by SupplySider
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To: screaminsunshine
"Bid 60 on P&G Hal".

"I'm sorry, Dave. I can't do that".

15 posted on 05/07/2010 10:39:42 PM PDT by SupplySider
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Um, why do you think so?

If the SP500 went to 1 tomorrow, would you panic, or call the market crazy and go buy all US companies for a song?

I'd do the latter.

16 posted on 05/07/2010 10:52:17 PM PDT by JasonC
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Someone big shorted the market...and cashed in.

My more cynical take is that some party (or multiple ones) had been short the market for a while, was losing his shirt, and had to engage in an act of artificial manipulation to save himself.

I have great confidence that the SEC is unlikely to figure out what actually happened. Employees are too busy watching porn, and even when they are not, they are pretty damn useless.

17 posted on 05/07/2010 11:06:16 PM PDT by freespirited (There are a lot of bad Republicans but there are no good Democrats.--Ann Coulter)
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To: JasonC

And that’s why I have a problem with the attempts to unwind those trades.

If we want people to step forward and buy “for a song” when other people are leaping off ledges, doesn’t that sort of require that we not undo their bargain hunting and make their risk and capital deployment a futile risk?


18 posted on 05/07/2010 11:08:51 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: SupplySider
No one wants to admit the obvious, that for a few minutes no one was willing to buy. Those prices were real.

Well and truly said.

19 posted on 05/07/2010 11:58:09 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: TennTuxedo

That’s only half of it. This was a test run to shake confidence in the market and set up the 401k grab.


20 posted on 05/08/2010 12:12:12 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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