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Defending the Innocent: Arizona and Immigration
First Things ^ | 4/28/2010 | Peter Mailaender

Posted on 04/29/2010 6:21:30 PM PDT by markomalley

Feathers began flying last Friday hours before Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed the country’s strictest state law governing illegal immigration, when President Obama called it unfair and promised to have the Justice Department examine it for possible civil rights violations. Criticism of the new law has been fierce.

Much of the criticism is, I think, overblown. It is difficult to regard the law’s requirements as deeply unjust. The law begins with a statement of intent: “The intent of this act is to make attrition through enforcement the public policy of all state and local government agencies in Arizona. The provisions of this act are intended to work together to discourage and deter the unlawful entry and presence of aliens and economic activity by persons unlawfully present in the United States.”

Arizona pursues this attrition strategy in a variety of ways. To begin, it requires law enforcement agencies to enforce federal immigration law to its fullest extent, in part by handing over illegal aliens into federal custody. If this is objectionable, it is hard to know why Arizona should be subject to special criticism.

Other requirements are equally reasonable. For example, the law attempts to reduce opportunities in the job market. Employers are forbidden to knowingly hire illegal aliens, and they are required to participate in the federal E-Verify system for determining immigrants’ legal work status. Similarly, illegal aliens may not work or solicit work in the state. The law targets the hiring of illegal day laborers in particular by making it a crime for motor vehicles to impede traffic as they slow and stop to pick up laborers in public places.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; enforcementworks; immigration; saynotoinvasion
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1 posted on 04/29/2010 6:21:30 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

The US already handed out amnesty once. The new citizens gave Arizona to Clinton once and elected Janet Napolitano governor. This nice ex-libertarian state has suffered enough.

Send all the illegal aliens back to their own countries. They can vote there.


2 posted on 04/29/2010 6:36:55 PM PDT by donna (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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To: donna

An excellent article and one with which I tend to agree. My only problem with it is that the author endorses a limited amnesty program after endorsing stricter border control. This strikes me as contradictory: On the one hand he wants to stop illegal immigrants at the border; on the other he wants to reward those clever enough to elude interdiction with amnesty.

A better approach is to build a wall along the border and crack down hard nationwide on illegals who will soon enough self-deport. Once this is done congress should increase the number of legal aliens allowed into the country through a fair and orderly legal process.

This approach is both fair and just.


3 posted on 04/29/2010 6:55:29 PM PDT by Freedomlibertyjustice
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To: markomalley

Limited amnesty is a fairy tale. Those illegals that are granted amnesty will be allowed to include their ‘relatives’ into this awful package. Multiply limited 10 fold.


4 posted on 04/29/2010 7:16:34 PM PDT by doc
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To: donna

“The new citizens gave Arizona to Clinton once and elected Janet Napolitano governor.”

Actually a lot of Republicans elected Janet Napolitano.


5 posted on 04/29/2010 7:21:41 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Freedomlibertyjustice

Yes, and once we let one sort of group stay (those here 5-years or more) there are unintended consequences. What about men in prison, can their illegal alien wives stay in the US or must we “tear the family apart”. What about men in the military? What about illegal aliens who need medical care?


6 posted on 04/29/2010 7:32:06 PM PDT by donna (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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To: donna

True enough. What you described is the slippery slope of chain immigration. Also, any amnesty - however limited - will act as a magnet for a new wave of illegals who will anticipate the next one.


7 posted on 04/29/2010 7:37:14 PM PDT by Freedomlibertyjustice
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To: sabe@q.com

So, you’re saying amnesty and voting illegal aliens have nothing to do with who gets elected in Arizona?


8 posted on 04/29/2010 7:40:24 PM PDT by donna (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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To: donna

unless they were registered republicans and voted for janet napolitano is both of her elections for gov?


9 posted on 04/29/2010 8:02:01 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: sabe@q.com

Sheriff Arpaio supported Napolitano.

If you believe that amnesty/illegal alien voters have no effect in Arizona, then I have nothing to say to you.


10 posted on 04/29/2010 8:09:08 PM PDT by donna (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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To: donna

AZ has some of the strictest voter ID laws in the US.

What amnesty? In the 1980s during Reagan’s Presidency?

Check out Secty of State’s website. For the third and last time in this thread I am saying a lot of Republicans voted for Napolitano for Gov and was why she was able to win.


11 posted on 04/29/2010 8:14:00 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: markomalley
President Obama called it unfair and promised to have the Justice Department examine it for possible civil rights violations.

Rallying cry for 2012.....(If Zero doesn't resign before then....he's set a pretty large table, but then walks away for another Date Night before the sh*t hits the fan)

I see a trend here, folks. A "Peter Principle" prexy in living color.

12 posted on 04/29/2010 8:14:52 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: sabe@q.com
For the third and last time in this thread I am saying a lot of Republicans voted for Napolitano for Gov and was why she was able to win.

You are exactly right. The first time Nappy ran, Matt Salmon was the oponnent, I worked on his campaign. There was a group of prominant Republicans that formed a group called Republicans for Napolitano.

The Az. voter ID laws are one of those things that looks good on paper. If all voters would go to the polls to vote it would be a good deal, but over 60% of the voters vote early balolots, there is no ID required to get an early ballot, or to turn it in. In Az. elections are stolen with early ballots, that also aided in Napolitano's election.

13 posted on 04/29/2010 9:20:53 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: markomalley
Author doesn't get it. It isn't justice/injustice, it's "politically inconvenient" to the Obaminators.
14 posted on 04/29/2010 10:13:31 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: c-b 1
There was a group of prominant Republicans that formed a group called Republicans for Napolitano.

Why did those people support a tool like Napolitano? Surely it was evident even then what she would support?

Were these guys illegal-hiring employers and Chamber tools?

15 posted on 04/29/2010 10:15:03 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Why did those people support a tool like Napolitano? Surely it was evident even then what she would support?

They supported Napolitano for several reasons, one of which was that Matt Salmon was too conservative for them. Fools like that never seem to see the end result of their foolishness.

Were these guys illegal-hiring employers and Chamber tools?

Probably, the issue of illegals hadn't heated up yet in 2002, it was an issue with only a few of us.

16 posted on 04/29/2010 11:23:29 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: lentulusgracchus; c-b 1
There was a group of prominent Republicans that formed a group called Republicans for Napolitano. Why did those people support a tool like Napolitano? Surely it was evident even then what she would support?

Napolitano went right to it.......Ever hear of the Arizona-Mexico Commission, and the Border Infrastructure Project, implemented in collaboration with financing from federal, state and local government agencies........OUR tax dollars?

==========================================

A STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE

FROM THE ARIZONA-MEXICO COMMISSION WEB SITE http://www.azmc.org/

Welcome to the Arizona-Mexico Commission (AMC) online news and information resource. The Arizona-Mexico Commission is Arizona's premiere cross-border organization.

We are a mission-driven non-profit organization chaired by Arizona's (then) Governor, Janet Napolitano. Our mission is to improve the economic well being and quality of life for residents of Arizona by promoting a strong, cooperative relationship with Mexico and Latin America through advocacy, trade, networking and information.

Looking for funding?

Look no further and check out AMC-ASU’s new funding database: Unlocking the gates to grant sponsorship in Arizona!

Visitwww.azgates.org to find funding and grant application resources online. The single information source on Arizona's Border Infrastructure Projects!

Visit www.azbip.org to find streamlined information on infrastructure projects in Arizona's border communities.

LINK State of Arizona Border Infrastructure Project http://www.bip.arizona.edu/

"The Border Infrastructure Project database is the single source of information on Arizona’s border infrastructure projects. It tracks each project’s progress along its approval, programming and funding paths and provides the information in a concise and timely way. I hope this is a valuable tool for you and that you will use it often." - (then) Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano

The University of Arizona Office of Economic and Policy Analysis developed the Border Infrastructure Project concept in partnership with the Arizona-Mexico Commission. It is being implemented in collaboration with federal, state and local government agencies. Border communities and stakeholders will be engaged in this project through outreach efforts.

17 posted on 04/30/2010 7:55:12 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: Liz
What infrastructure? What in the hell is she talking about? Infrastructure to support what? Border-zone truck depots?

Advocacy of what? For whom?

There is something hidden here that the copywriter can't come right out and talk about. There is a wilful, intentional deficit of specificity and clear meaning.

This is all just pap -- it's code. You can't figure out what the copy is actually saying unless you have the Secret, Members-Only Decoder Ring.

18 posted on 04/30/2010 8:02:28 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: sabe@q.com
For the third and last time in this thread I am saying a lot of Republicans voted for Napolitano for Gov and was why she was able to win.

I have a hard time believing, as conservative as Arizona is, that loads of conservative Republicans would vote for a Democrat?

What ensorcellment did she work in order to gull these trusting voters?

Or did the media just equate her GOP opponent to Evan Meacham at every newsbreak?

19 posted on 04/30/2010 8:10:21 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

My Secret Decoder ring told me this was excerpted from ARIZONA-MEXICO
COMMISSION WEB SITE ---so that's what Napolitano was talking about.

20 posted on 04/30/2010 8:21:01 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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