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But according to Charol Shakeshaft, the researcher of a little-remembered 2004 study prepared for the U.S. Department of Education, "the physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests."

I guess the US Department of Education under President George W. Bush must not be a reputable source of information. ( /sarcasm off )

1 posted on 04/01/2010 12:35:40 PM PDT by topher
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It’s simple: Teachers are allowed to marry and marriage causes sex abuse.


2 posted on 04/01/2010 12:39:25 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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Also from the article:
Weigel observes that priestly sex abuse is “a phenomenon that spiked between the mid-1960s and the mid-1980s but seems to have virtually disappeared,” and that in recent years the Church has gone to great lengths to punish and remove priestly predators and to protect children. The result of these measures is that “six credible cases of clerical sexual abuse in 2009 were reported in the U.S. bishops’ annual audit, in a Church of some 65,000,000 members.”

6 priests out of the 65 million member church. It should be stated that there are not 65 million priests.

But I would be a lot more concerned about the children in our schools.

Or perhaps paperboys and papergirls for the New York Times might be in more danger...

3 posted on 04/01/2010 12:39:32 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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VEEERRRYY INTERESTING!!!!!!!!

Selective use of information must be one of Alinsky’s guidelines.


4 posted on 04/01/2010 12:40:07 PM PDT by ZULU
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But they aren’t afraid of the public schools so it could be 1000 times more. It is only the Church and especially the Catholic Church that stands in their way.


5 posted on 04/01/2010 12:40:30 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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Kids have to be safer in Catholic schools than in public schools, that’s a no brainer.


6 posted on 04/01/2010 12:40:43 PM PDT by wendy1946
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Priests don’t have a union.
7 posted on 04/01/2010 12:41:09 PM PDT by throwback
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It’s not forgotten, it’s just ignored by the MSM. They want to fracture and destroy organized religion. I believe Catholics are public enemy #1 because they haven’t rolled over on a lot of the social issues yet.


8 posted on 04/01/2010 12:43:03 PM PDT by xenob
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He who deflects is the loser.

Loser.


9 posted on 04/01/2010 12:43:06 PM PDT by arealconservativeforachange (Tell JD Hayworth to run for McCain's seat! http://www.jdhayworth.com/contact.php)
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Abuse is bad wherever it is, and needs to be rooted out (perpetrators and any who cover for them alike) wherever it occurs.


10 posted on 04/01/2010 12:47:10 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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Kids in Catholic schools also run a 200% greater risk of being educated.


11 posted on 04/01/2010 12:51:09 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( FIRE STUPAK: LindaForCongress.com)
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I thought I clicked on
A “Guilty/Not Guilty” thread...
Sorry... My mistake...


12 posted on 04/01/2010 12:52:07 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gov. Chris Christie (R) won the NJ-6 held by Rep. Frank Pallone (D) by a 15.5% margin!)
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Do the schools cover it up and transfer the teachers to new schools without telling anyone at the new school about the pedophilia?


13 posted on 04/01/2010 12:53:35 PM PDT by babble-on
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It’s simple, the Catholic church is unapologetically pro-life, therefore, they are an enemy of the state and of Obamacare.

The teacher’s unions are reliable Democratic supporters, so don’t expect to see any serious evaluation of abuse in schools....until of course, a Republican is back in the White House, or the abuse occurs in a charter school, or home school, in which case the MSM will be all over it.


15 posted on 04/01/2010 12:57:38 PM PDT by Sir Clancelot
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Incidents are under reported because of the decentralized character of the public schools. There are some 10,000 independent school districts in the United States with no central clearing house for personnel, not even in the state education agencies. Furthermore, in most cases, the parents are children are more concerned to see the perp disappear from their child’s life than to punish him/her. The demand is that they get fired, not prosecuted. More often than not, the accusation is false or unprovable, or in any case. hard to prosecute. So the police are just as happy to see the perp leave their jurisdiction. or at least this was the case until the priest crisis. Now we have gone the other way and a perp is likely to be tarred for life even for a relatively minor offense. Still there is no mechanism that keeps a teacher from losing a job in North Carolina and ending up with a job in Oregon. The losing district is unlikely to tell the receiving district about the cause of his
dismissal for fear of suit, however unlikely that maybe. We are after all, talking about a population of three million teachers and a very big country.


16 posted on 04/01/2010 12:58:03 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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You would think by all the media accounts that the only people who abuse children are Catholic priests and Scout leaders.

My son's kindergarten teacher, who was neither a priest nor a scout leader, was fired under seemingly unknown circumstances, but with rumors of some sort of indiscretion. Six months later, he called me. I thought, to have a casual conversation. He was a great teacher and my son really liked him. Towards the end of the conversation, he asked if he could take my son fishing. Immediately, a red flag went up and I artfully dodged the request. He called back a few months later with the same request. This time I was a little more emphatic and he never called back.

It gives me the creeps thinking about what may have happened to my son.

20 posted on 04/01/2010 1:05:14 PM PDT by Slyfox
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Even IF this is true, there is still one big difference. When it happens at school they either are fired and or go to jail. Not transferred to another school where they can do it again. Where as the priests, at least some of them were merely transferred to another district, state,or even country, where I'm sure they have not lost their perverted ways.
22 posted on 04/01/2010 1:05:53 PM PDT by fish hawk
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““We have scant data on incidence and even less on descriptions of predators”
So where’d they get the 9.6%?


27 posted on 04/01/2010 1:24:51 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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Teacher abuse is definitely a problem ... but, in fairness, teachers are typically removed from classes pretty quickly, fired as quickly as union rules will allow, their crimes are made public and scrutinzed in the media, and some are prosecuted.

One would hope that members of the Body of Christ would do better than they have ... certainly at least as well as public schools at discipling those that are caught. Shuffling people around is not good enough. Excommunication and firing are a minimum.

SnakeDoc


34 posted on 04/01/2010 1:38:04 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant ... that even a god-king can bleed." - 300)
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The priest abuse issue is 80% political. It broke in Massachusetts just before the courts and Romney legalized homosexual marriage. I don’t imagine that it was coincidence that the power of the church in MA was given a serious whack right at that opportune time.

The Roman Catholic Church, being global, and having definite right-wrong standards, is a threat to global socialism with the attendant moral relativism the left requires- this is Orwell’s Doublethink.

So they become a target.


40 posted on 04/01/2010 2:00:06 PM PDT by DBrow
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The author of this article is correct. The Catholic Church is being unfairly singled out by the Mainstream ( Marxist) media. And..I agree. The motive of the Marxists is to destroy and delegitimize this church.

Abuse in our government schools by staff and other students, I would suspect, far, far, far exceeds anything that every went on in the Catholic Church.

If the Catholic leadership had been more careful about allowing Marxist infiltration into its teaching and leadership ranks, it would have had far less trouble with homosexuality and child abuse. The Catholic Church would be wise to remove these Marxist elements from its ranks. That seems unlikely, though. Witness the Catholic Church's response to Notre Dame, Kennedy's funeral, and so-called Catholic pro-abortion politicians.

48 posted on 04/01/2010 2:09:07 PM PDT by wintertime
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