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FR-er CPA's help! Is the framework for a VAT in Obamacare?
Journal of Accountancy ^ | 03/31/2010 | taildragger

Posted on 03/31/2010 8:56:04 AM PDT by taildragger

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To: RC2
When those people run out of money, the government will drop it down to $150,000

My prediction all along......Jan 1, 2011 the gov will let the Bush tax expire on the top two rates. Others stay same. Why? Well the budget will be out before elections. Jan 1, 2012...The threshold will drop to 75K for singles 150,000 for married. Jan 1, 2013 5% VAT tax on all goods except food.

Im a genius.

21 posted on 03/31/2010 10:22:51 AM PDT by GUNGAGALUNGA (Democratus Suckus Teatus is the Latin root for Democrat and it means to tax)
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To: taildragger

I am a CPA. In October of 2008, just prior to the last presidential election, I made a prediction at a combined Pennsylvania Institute of CPA’s meeting with the Internal Revenue Service Regional Managers(Stakeholder’s
Group) that the VAT Tax or a national sales tax similar to Europe’s would be in effect within two years. They laughed. My time line was off a little, but it is coming. It’s the only way they can come close to balancing the budget.

Here is the framework:

Credit Card Merchant Services Now Required to Report Credit Card Transactions

According to the IRS, “The provision was enacted as part of the Housing Assistance Tax Act of 2008 and is designed to improve voluntary tax compliance by business taxpayers and help the IRS determine whether their tax returns are correct and complete.”

As part of the Housing Assistance Tax Act of 2008 Congress passed yet another new information reporting requirement that will cost small businesses money at a time when cash flow is critical to survival. Beginning in 2011 banks and credit card merchant services companies will be required to prepare and file Form 1099 K reporting a variety of different merchant transactions, despite objections raised by the financial services industry.

Small businesses already reeling from the recession will be hurt hardest by these increases and will be forced to increase their prices for goods and services to compensate for the additional costs.

Waiters and waitresses who are paid a reduced minimum wage and depend on their tips to make ends meet will be hammered by this new law as most restaurant customers pay by credit card, including tips. Restaurant owners have little choice but to reduce the server’s tips by the credit card merchant fees, and so the servers will see less at the end of the shift. For those servers who have already seen a decline in business resulting from the recession as well as a dramatic reduction in tips received as a percentage of the tab, these new merchant fees will hurt them even more.

Many small businesses, especially retailers, will find it difficult to increase prices to pass on the added cost and remain competitive will see their margins shrink as well.

Although it has long been acknowledged that the Tax Gap primarily results from the underground cash economy, according to IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman, “Time and time again, we have seen that better information reporting helps the tax system work better by ensuring that everyone pays what they owe.” “The new law gives us an important new tool for closing the tax gap and also provides business taxpayers better documentation to compute and report their income and expenses. The IRS will work closely with stakeholder groups to ensure a smooth implementation of this new program.”


22 posted on 03/31/2010 10:29:49 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: Oceander
No, I don't have the specific statutory language. I searched the IRS site for a reference to this new reporting provision and found nothing, which isn't surprising since the new requirement doesn't kick in until 2013.

I don't believe I indicated that I think this is related to a possible VAT tax implementation.

23 posted on 03/31/2010 10:34:39 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge

On the VAT point - fair enough; that was the OP’s question, though, so I just carried on through and related my answer back to that question. Sorry if you thought I was ascribing something to you that you didn’t say.


24 posted on 03/31/2010 10:38:34 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Oceander
There's nothing to apologize for, I was just explaining that I didn't see a VAT connection.

I apologize if I came across as a curmudgeon (well, I am but not all the time...;-)

25 posted on 03/31/2010 10:43:08 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge

My post in #22 is about the new requirement that credit card companies report each person’s credit card purchases to the IRS.

Very few people know about this. It’s a stepping stone to the cashless society.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2470979/posts

Not sure how to post the form here, but here is the link to the draft IRS document: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f1099k—dft.pdf


26 posted on 03/31/2010 10:54:44 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired
Gotta plug up any escape routes; it takes money to run a totalitarian government after all.

Maybe I'm thick, but why would tips to servers on credit card transactions suffer because of this? Merchants have paid merchant charges which are written off as an expense all along.

27 posted on 03/31/2010 11:23:30 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: USNBandit

..and that doesn’t include the shipping and handling which is also taxed. A can of soup made in New Jersey, (where the Campbells plant is) and is shipped to another state has the value of placement which is also a value added!


28 posted on 03/31/2010 12:03:04 PM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: Young Werther

You forgot:

Now your Campbell’s Soup costs $6.00


29 posted on 03/31/2010 12:13:04 PM PDT by willyd (Reducing Taxes Reduces our Carbon Footprint)
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To: GraceG

I have had my business for 36 years... very successful... even under catah... but hussein is killing me... by July I will know if we are going to shutdown.

LLS


30 posted on 03/31/2010 1:33:14 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Maybe I’m thick, but why would tips to servers on credit card transactions suffer because of this?

Because tip employees are assessed taxable tips based upon a percentage of gross sales. IRS rules.. at least 8% of sales must be tips..


31 posted on 03/31/2010 9:42:43 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired
Well, duh.

Thanks! (OK, so I am thick.)

32 posted on 04/01/2010 7:28:44 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Young Werther

No. The 1099 comes in many editions.


And don’t forget the 1099 B for barters..............................


33 posted on 04/28/2010 2:13:25 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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