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NASA Data Worse Than Climate-Gate Data, Space Agency Admits
Fax News ^ | 30 March, 2010 | Blake Snow

Posted on 03/30/2010 12:08:25 PM PDT by Ben Mugged

NASA was able to put a man on the moon, but the space agency can't tell you what the temperature was when it did. By its own admission, NASA's temperature records are in even worse shape than the besmirched Climate-gate data.

E-mail messages obtained by a Freedom of Information Act request reveal that NASA concluded that its own climate findings were inferior to those maintained by both the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit (CRU) -- the scandalized source of the leaked Climate-gate e-mails -- and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's National Climatic Data Center.

The e-mails from 2007 reveal that when a USA Today reporter asked if NASA's data "was more accurate" than other climate-change data sets, NASA's Dr. Reto A. Ruedy replied with an unequivocal no. He said "the National Climatic Data Center's procedure of only using the best stations is more accurate," admitting that some of his own procedures led to less accurate readings.

"My recommendation to you is to continue using NCDC's data for the U.S. means and [East Anglia] data for the global means," Ruedy told the reporter.

"NASA's temperature data is worse than the Climate-gate temperature data. According to NASA," wrote Christopher Horner, a senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute who uncovered the e-mails. Horner is skeptical of NCDC's data as well, stating plainly: "Three out of the four temperature data sets stink."

Global warming critics call this a crucial blow to advocates' arguments that minor flaws in the "Climate-gate" data are unimportant, since all the major data sets arrive at the same conclusion -- that the Earth is getting warmer. But there's a good reason for that, the skeptics say: They all use the same data.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: amazongate; carbontrade; climatechange; climatechangedata; climategate; cowgate; czechgate; glaciergate; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscandal; ipcc; pachauri; pachaurigate; scam; scandinaviagate
The gun continues to smoke.
1 posted on 03/30/2010 12:08:26 PM PDT by Ben Mugged
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To: Ben Mugged

And at the middle of that rotten apple? James Hansen!


2 posted on 03/30/2010 12:10:38 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Ben Mugged
"My recommendation to you is to continue using NCDC's data for the U.S. means and [East Anglia] data for the global means," Ruedy told the reporter.

And my recommendation to NASA is to shut up until you can get meaningful data that can be analyzed and shared with other scientific organizations. As far as I am concerned, the resed button has been hit and we need to start over on the global warming debate.

3 posted on 03/30/2010 12:13:10 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: Ben Mugged

Global Warming is a hoax.

To tax Americans for a concept called Global Warming is a political ideology of the left that continues.

I am unaware of any reasonable scientist in the world today supports this but, governments will need to tax you to study it more.


4 posted on 03/30/2010 12:16:28 PM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: Ben Mugged
NASA concluded that its own climate findings were inferior ...
I'm sure Toyota owners will be happy to hear this: Your tax dollars at work ... for a Japanese company.
5 posted on 03/30/2010 12:19:59 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Ben Mugged

bttt


6 posted on 03/30/2010 12:22:16 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Ben Mugged

The data is not important...the computer models tell us everything we need to know.


7 posted on 03/30/2010 12:28:52 PM PDT by pb929
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To: oh8eleven

Hey, I have a lot more faith in engineers verses scientists from NASA these days. Engineers have to actually make things work.


8 posted on 03/30/2010 12:28:59 PM PDT by DB
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He said "the National Climatic Data Center's procedure of only using the best [hottest] stations is more accurate,"

Fixed it!

9 posted on 03/30/2010 12:30:03 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Brett66

Hansen...oh the poster boy for the Houston comical. They are in luuuvvvv with this charlatan.


10 posted on 03/30/2010 12:33:04 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: oh8eleven

Hey, the engineers just build the equipment. It’s the “scientists” who collect and interpret the data and that’s where the problem lies.


11 posted on 03/30/2010 12:33:27 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: DB
Engineers have to actually make things work.
And if they don't, they get fired.
12 posted on 03/30/2010 12:35:41 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Ben Mugged

This Fox item just flat-out cribs a piece from Big Journalism from a while back: http://bigjournalism.com/chorner/2010/03/23/usa-today-global-warming-handmaiden/


13 posted on 03/30/2010 3:36:46 PM PDT by EamonnR
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To: Ben Mugged; Amagi; Beowulf; Tunehead54; Clive; Fractal Trader; tubebender; marvlus; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

14 posted on 03/30/2010 3:45:35 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
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To: Ben Mugged

This makes me wonder if the astronauts really did go to the moon or was it all made up just like global warming.


15 posted on 03/30/2010 8:40:55 PM PDT by seawolf101
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