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1 posted on 03/27/2010 8:45:06 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Perhaps it is not a false analogy, I guess we could convert to Muslim, or Amishism.


2 posted on 03/27/2010 8:46:16 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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Here's the difference (aside from the obvious that humans are not cars)...driving is a PRIVELEDGE - it is NOT a right. The right to LIFE, however, is a right and is what is directly being monkeyed with. No one will die because they cannot drive without auto insurance. Untold numbers will die unnecessarily under rationed socialized medicine.
3 posted on 03/27/2010 8:47:36 AM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan (Let us not get bogged down in the small squabbles; Let us get caught up in the big ideas. Palin '12)
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Never...repeat never accept the Marxists premise when starting a discussion.


4 posted on 03/27/2010 8:50:47 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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It’s a false analogy because auto insurance is required in order to drive a vehicle, which is not a requirement, just has home-owner’s insurance is a requirement for owning a home (or mortgage), which is also not a requirement.

The federal government is requiring us to purchase something simply for having been created by our Creator. That is, in order to avoid being illegal, we must purchase something.

What’s funny is that the follow-up to their false argument is that we need to purchase that thing (insurance) in order to ensure that OTHERS DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR US.

So, they REQUIRE OTHERS TO PAY in order to ensure that OTHERS DO NOT PAY.

Brilliant logic only in the minds of leftists/statists/totalitarians.


5 posted on 03/27/2010 8:51:46 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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Driving is a privilege, not required for life.

Requiring every breathing human to pay for insurance is completely different.

7 posted on 03/27/2010 8:54:46 AM PDT by DainBramage
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If you are a senior and you get in a car accident doesn’t medicare have to pay when the auto insurance liability runs out?


8 posted on 03/27/2010 8:56:48 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (A Christian Democrat is better than a heathen Republican)
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One of my wife’s friends started into this line of argument yesterday. I was dumbfounded that it could even be considered.

The left must have a daily e-mail of talking points they send out to everyone.


10 posted on 03/27/2010 8:59:40 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Petroleum, oil, lubricants. Add liquid oxygen. What could go wrong?)
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This is a nice objective analysis by Mr. Racer.

The federal healthcare bill is seriously flawed logically. We will summarize that elsewhere, it has to do with the fundamental nature of insurance; but the truly sickening thing is, like my tolerant wife even says, how could so many supposedly reasonable politicians in DC ever ever ever sign on to this fiasco - Lautenberg, Nelson, Lanrieu, Webb, Specter, and on and on?

Is it just to show support for Obama, the half-black man? Is it they are so consumed by power they need to impress their flaws on the citizens? Is it they are so extorted by Rahm and the Mossad they can't declare themselves? Is it they are so preoccupied with self-aggrandizement they are just plain ignorant of reality?

This thing really really is a national boondoggle and your (and mine) Senator and Rep imposed it.

Johnny Suntrade

12 posted on 03/27/2010 9:02:37 AM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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If the other guy has car insurance why should I have to have it? He’s already covered is I smack into him.


13 posted on 03/27/2010 9:03:07 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (A Christian Democrat is better than a heathen Republican)
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Health insurance was developed long before our exceptional advances in life-saving surgery, pharmaceuticals and imaging. As a result of medical research and development costs, these technologies are extraordinarily expensive.

Health insurance accommodated these catastrophic costs and offered - guess what? CATASTROPHIC COVERAGE!!!!

With employer based insurance, Medicare and Medicaid, the public nevertheless maintained an ignorance for the value of this important product - UNTIL THEY EXPERIENCE A CHRONIC, LIFE THREATENING, COSTLY ILLNESS!!!!!

The opportunistic Marxists jumped on this complacency and will now confiscate & destroyu a well funded, financially sound formula of heath insurance that served us well.


14 posted on 03/27/2010 9:03:07 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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5. You are free to choose not to participate. If your circumstances warrant not having a car, you aren’t forced to buy insurance for yourself or take part in a system buying it for others.

6. The government isn’t putting a competitive insurance ‘company’ in the fold that isn’t obligated to follow business practices like making a profit for investors, thus, unfair competition to private companies.

7. Auto insurance plans for the most part, are ala carte (like buying apps). There is a minimum you buy but then you buy the policy that fits your needs from a choice of hundreds of companies. Not a mandated one size fits all plan like FedGov is forcing for health-care.

8. Those who work for insurance companies aren’t compelled against their will to work against their wishes or values or in a place they don’t wish to move like mandates in Obamacare.

I could keep going and going and going....


15 posted on 03/27/2010 9:03:25 AM PDT by mnehring
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Some states (Michigan, for example) do require the purchase of auto insurance when driving on public roads; this, however, is not universally the case.

Others, however, have "Financial Responsibility" laws, which merely require you demonstrate the ability to cover damages to another's person or property you may cause while operating your vehicle.

The most common way of doing this is to purchase an auto insurance policy.

However, "financial responsibility" can also be demonstrated by posting a bond equal to at least the minimum insurance limits for your state.

If Washington, for example, does not explicitly mandate insurance, but merely has a "financial responsibility" law, I'm pretty sure Bill Gates does not have auto insurance.

Probably doesn't have medical insurance, either.

16 posted on 03/27/2010 9:03:38 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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If we want to drive, we need insurance.
If we want a doctor, we need insurance.

If you don’t want to drive you don’t need insurance

If you want a car, you get a job and buy one
If you want insurance, you get a job and coverage.

There is no reason these folks can’t get a job but if they get the same amount (or more) for doing nothing, why not?

I do understand that people need a helping hand sometimes, but these people do get on their feet eventually. I think they should limit for lifetime welfare benefits then maybe it will not be abused. People will save it for when they need it instead of welfare becoming a way of life.


17 posted on 03/27/2010 9:04:49 AM PDT by marstegreg
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Almost a weak has passed by and the lump of clay at the pit of my stomach won’t go away. It boggles my mind how we in America have allowed this scummery to descend on us. Where were our elder statesmen? Where were the voices of reason even in our media? Why were the boards of directors and administrators and CEOs of our most thriving companies so meek and silent? How was it possible that 3, YES, ONLY 3 determined stealth marxists who have infiltrated the government, able to shove this poisonous pill down America’s throat and march around gloating about their monstrous deed afterward? I am angry and disgusted at the stupidity and lack of foresight of this country.


21 posted on 03/27/2010 9:09:09 AM PDT by parisa
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Brilliant article. Demolishes the fiction that there’s not going to be Death Panels. Obama lied. Again.


23 posted on 03/27/2010 9:15:57 AM PDT by Grim (I'm voting for Sarah)
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Bookmark.


24 posted on 03/27/2010 9:17:36 AM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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Moreover, there is no MANDATE (yet) to eveyone has to OWN a car and hence would need insurance.


26 posted on 03/27/2010 9:18:25 AM PDT by the long march
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To carry the analogy further:

"I don't want to pay for mandatory auto insurance."
SOLUTION: Get rid of your car.

"I don't like paying for mandatory health insurance."
SOLUTION: Kill yourself.

29 posted on 03/27/2010 9:22:51 AM PDT by Oratam
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Where's that auto policy that allows me to purchase it after I have an accident?
37 posted on 03/27/2010 12:04:50 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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While we are at it, DRIVING is a RAGHT, not a priveldge.
39 posted on 03/27/2010 12:07:15 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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