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USN Retro-Photo of the Day: A Mighty F-14 Tomcat--King of the Fighter Jets--Dominating Air and Sea!
United States Navy ^ | March 1, 1991 | Lieutenant Commander Ken Neubauer, U.S. Navy

Posted on 03/20/2010 4:18:21 PM PDT by EnjoyingLife

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To: ghannonf18

What about the super hornet? won’t that match the F14?


21 posted on 03/20/2010 4:54:58 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: EnjoyingLife
A guy that I know from the dog park I go to got out of the Navy a few years back. He wasn’t a pilot but a mechanic who had worked on both aircraft. He said that the F14 required tremendous maintenance- far more than the F18 Hornet. He said this was one of the reasons for retiring the F14- that it was just too expensive to keep them going. It wasn’t retired for performance reasons. I don’t have knowledge in this area. Is this true anyone of you guys who know about these things?
22 posted on 03/20/2010 4:59:09 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Vroomfondel; SC Swamp Fox; Fred Hayek; NY Attitude; P3_Acoustic; Bean Counter; investigateworld; ...
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23 posted on 03/20/2010 5:01:53 PM PDT by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: magslinger
Had to look it up.

Transonic is an aeronautics term referring to the condition in which a range of velocities of airflow exist surrounding and flowing past an air vehicle or an airfoil. Air flow velocities are concurrently below, at, and above the speed of sound at the pressure and temperature of the airflow of the air vehicle's local environment (about mach 0.8–1.2). It is formally defined as the range of speeds between the critical Mach number, when some parts of the airflow over an air vehicle or air foil are supersonic, and a higher speed, typically near Mach 1.2, when all of the airflow is supersonic. Between these speeds some of the airflow is supersonic, and some is not.

So the one on the right is the F-14 and on the left is a F-18 right?

24 posted on 03/20/2010 5:36:31 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: EnjoyingLife
The F-14 is still the sexiest fighter ever. Spent an embarrassingly amount of time admiring the lines of a Tomcat on a dimly lit hanger deck. Beautiful.
26 posted on 03/20/2010 6:26:34 PM PDT by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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To: mamelukesabre; AFreeBird; Jack Hydrazine
"Shredding F-14s To Keep Parts From Iran" by Tucker Reals
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/02/national/main3006107.shtml
27 posted on 03/20/2010 6:27:11 PM PDT by EnjoyingLife
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To: EnjoyingLife

Like I said; I don’t care the reason. Sending a Tomcat to the shredder is just wrong on so many levels.


28 posted on 03/20/2010 6:41:22 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: EnjoyingLife

The only thing subsonic on that Tom is the cover on his tail light...


29 posted on 03/20/2010 7:06:28 PM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: ghannonf18

so did I.
Uss Ranger and JohnF Kennedy.


30 posted on 03/20/2010 7:18:09 PM PDT by brivette (paper)
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To: ghannonf18

Guess we need carrier based F-22s then.

Ah...or not. I’m leaning toward a smaller cheaper unmanned version of the VTOL F-35 lightning II. The future is shrunk down autonomous unmanned aircraft. Something the size of a pickup truck. Autonomous aerial refueling tankers too. I’m visualizing helicopter versions that can refuel themselves from ocean liner oil tankers. And container ships modified to haul the unmanned mini fighters, by the hundreds. VTOL so no catapult required.


31 posted on 03/20/2010 8:28:25 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: ghannonf18

autonomous unmanned vehicles don’t count on no goddam link. Wakup boy! Smell the future coffee.


33 posted on 03/21/2010 12:41:35 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

Unfortunately, your autonomous unmanned vehicles are in exactly the same state as the future coffee; Future Development that is wholly dependent upon support and funding from a political cabal that seems more intent upon the destruction of this country than its defense.

Word pictures don’t hack ANY program, and we’re in the sh**can right up to our eyebrows if we don’t get a double dose of luck and avoid a serious threat for at least the next two years.

I’d suggest lots of prayer on that subject, and the neat old pictures and autonomous unmanned vehicles can just go as sea stories.


34 posted on 03/21/2010 6:19:30 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (1035 and a wakeup)
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To: mamelukesabre
autonomous unmanned vehicles don’t count on no goddam link. Wakup boy! Smell the future coffee.

First of all, we don't even have an UCAV that is supersonic.

Second, as of the foreseeable future, autonomous does not include ACM. Period.

Third, even if they were, and did, how would that be better than a ESSM? Besides, they're faster, cheaper, and you can carry a lot more of them.

On the down side, you can't reload a VLS at sea, and risk shooting yourself dry. Which is a 'Bad Thing' in fleet defense.

Bottom line, we needed something faster ACM platform with more enduance (legs!), and cheaper to maintain. What we got was the Hornet. Which we needed for attack roles.

But NOT for Fleet Defense.

As for a Navalized F-22; by the time it's airframe is beefed up for traps, and somehow is found to keep stealth in a sea environment, I doubt if it would be the equivalent of the land-based version.

I'm just sayin'...

36 posted on 03/21/2010 9:35:20 AM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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