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Stupak Abortion Language to Be Substituted for Senate Language in Deal to Secure Health Care Votes
FiredogLake ^ | 3/19/10 | Jane Hamsher

Posted on 03/19/2010 7:45:03 PM PDT by LdSentinal

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To: Diogenesis

We’re in for the fight of our lives trying to make sense of what is going on and you have to get in your hatred for Romney on every thread. Gee, where are your Rudy-in-a-dress pics? It’s all so old. Get a new act already!


101 posted on 03/19/2010 8:44:28 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: dschapin

That’s what I think.


102 posted on 03/19/2010 8:45:33 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: LdSentinal
Stupak in the Youtube embedded on firedoglake says that he would expect the Concurrent Resolution to be passed by both houses before the House takes up the Senate Bill.
103 posted on 03/19/2010 8:46:18 PM PDT by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA--a/k/a ObamaCare--or lose reelection)
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To: Hoodat

The Stupak language was already rejected by the Senate—I think it could only get 45 votes. So if he thinks his language will be adopted by the Senate he’s either a fool or a sellout.


104 posted on 03/19/2010 8:46:22 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: MsLady

This is a “lie.” Stupak will stand up for what he believes on this issue. The Democrats will not compromise at all. The pro death issue is too important for the Democrats to give anything to Stupak.

Stupak will be the MVP at the end of the day. Mark my words.


105 posted on 03/19/2010 8:48:01 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: cmj328

Yeah, I was hoping that it was like an Amendment - in that once the House adopted it changes would be immediately made. However, I think you are right that this would only take effect if both houses agree. In which case, this would be a bad thing since whether it passed both houses or died in the Senate the Senate bill would still become law in the end.


106 posted on 03/19/2010 8:49:20 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: truthandlife

is this a new story update?

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/03/19/the-stupak-amendment-is-back-whats-an-enrollment-corrections-bill/


107 posted on 03/19/2010 8:50:10 PM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: truthandlife

“Stupak will be the MVP at the end of the day. Mark my words.”

I pray you are right. I think that’s why Lipinski is hanging tough with him....he’s a Chicago Dem!


108 posted on 03/19/2010 8:52:12 PM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: BARLF

What I meant was that for about 30 minutes that article was not appearing when linking to www.firedoglake.com, as it should have and does now. It was only accessible using the link you posted. I was beginning to question whether it was hacked.


109 posted on 03/19/2010 8:56:38 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: LdSentinal
The cash flow from ActBlue - organized by Firedoglake and allies including MoveOn - has come as a surprise to some of its beneficiaries, primarily members of Congress pledging to vote against health care legislation that lacks the public option.

Did you know this Jane Hamster ...Firedoglake is a far left liberal?

She works with MoveOn for goodness sakes.

110 posted on 03/19/2010 8:57:11 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: thouworm
I saw your later post after I had posted that.

Something that disturbs me is this Jane Hamster is a leftie. I will not read anything else with her name on it. She's pushing this crap in this article because she wants health care to pass with no abortion funding killed. She lied, Stupak made no deal yet with the witch.

People should check these sites out and see who they are before believing everything posted here.

Yeah, I'm ticked at this false info presented in this article.

My above post shows she works with MoveOn!

111 posted on 03/19/2010 9:05:19 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: BARLF

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30131_Page2.html

Jane Hamster


112 posted on 03/19/2010 9:10:20 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: BARLF

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30131_Page2.html

Jane Hamster

Worth Repeating. She is a tool for the Obama campaign. SHE IS A LIAR!! DON'T BELIEVE THIS STORY.

The Dems are in big trouble and we need to continue the pressure and to continue to pray.


113 posted on 03/19/2010 9:14:45 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife

Thank You truthandlife!


114 posted on 03/19/2010 9:16:56 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: BARLF
I agree. And for the longest time I could find no confirmation. Finally, this was the first (but even that only lead back to the original source):

The Left on Stupak Negotiations [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Firedoglake purports to have some leakage.
National Review: The Corner

Even Lopez wasn't buying it. We have been seeing breathless headlines like "Pelosi says she has the votes." Duh... she has been saying that for...weeks? Why any reporter is trusting the words of a frantic, desperate, proven liar or her minions is beyond me. Whatever happened to independent sources, multiple confirmations...

115 posted on 03/19/2010 9:17:12 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm
I don't know ,but this article got a lot of people upset. People should take the time to confirm what they are reading, check out the author.

Isn't Move on.org sponsored by Soros?

Gad this makes me mad.

116 posted on 03/19/2010 9:22:55 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: Man50D

“They gain the Stupak 12 but lose 40 pro abortion votes if I understand this correctly.”

Doubtful :-(
The hard-core lefties ALL folded like cheap suits on this and voted FOR the House bill WITH Stupak in it.

The only good news here is that pelosi would only be dealing with Stupak if she didnt have the votes otherwise.

The BAD news is that this is an absurd contraption that will NOT WORK. Stupak is nuts to fall for it.


117 posted on 03/19/2010 9:28:12 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: LdSentinal

The fight is not over, even if passed this Sunday. Keep your heads up and maintain your fighting spirit. This is far from over.


118 posted on 03/19/2010 9:33:40 PM PDT by cranked
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To: BARLF

From Hot Air (must read whole post from Allahpundit):

Chaos: Pelosi reaches deal with Stupak for Senate abortion vote?
posted at 11:51 pm on March 19, 2010 by Allahpundit

“Makes no sense.”

(snip)

A friend of the site e-mailed us about an hour ago to say that he spoke to a Democratic congressman he’s pals with earlier tonight. Quote:

“He tells me with certainty that they have plenty of votes and that some yes votes will be allowed to vote no if they choose for their protection. He says that everyone’s internal polling has been much better than expected. He says at this point that last sticking point is whether to give Stupak a separate vote, which Pelosi is considering.”

(snip)

Exit question: Is this all just lefty spin being fed to Firedoglake by peeved pro-choicers? We’ll find out at Stupak’s presser tomorrow. 11 a.m.!

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/19/chaos-pelosi-reaches-deal-with-stupak-for-senate-abortion-vote/


119 posted on 03/19/2010 9:35:17 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: WOSG
The hard-core lefties ALL folded like cheap suits on this and voted FOR the House bill WITH Stupak in it.

That's because they knew the Senate would strip it out. They were assured of that ahead of time. Repeating the same cycle gets them nowhere. If it can't pass now WITHOUT the Stupak amendment, it never will pass.

120 posted on 03/19/2010 9:40:34 PM PDT by randita (Sarah Palin has the same computer that I have.)
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