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Hawaii considers ban on requests for Obama's birth certificate
London Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | March 16, 2010

Posted on 03/17/2010 7:56:05 AM PDT by Schnucki

Hawaii may start ignoring repeated requests for proof that President Barack Obama was born on the islands.

Repeated requests to see President Barack Obama's birth certificate may fall on deaf ears after the House Judiciary Committee heard a bill permitting government officials to ignore people who won't give up.

So-called "birthers" claim Mr Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States, and therefore doesn't meet a constitutional requirement for being president.

"Sometimes we may be dealing with a cohort of people who believe lack of evidence is evidence of a conspiracy," said Lorrin Kim, from the Hawaii Department of Health.

Under Hawaii state law, the release of a birth certificate is prohibited for people who do not have a tangible interest.

Hawaii Health Director Dr Chiyome Fukino issued statements last year and in October 2008 saying that she had seen vital records that prove Mr Obama is a natural-born American citizen.

Mr Obama was born to a Kenyan father and an American mother.

But the state still gets between 10 and 20 emails seeking verification of Obama's birth each week, most of them from outside Hawaii.

Both Dr Fukino and the state registrar of vital statistics have verified that the Health Department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Republican Cynthia Thielen said: "Do we really want to be known internationally as the legislature that blocked any inquiries into where President Obama was born?

"When people want to get more information, the way to fuel that fire is to say, 'We're now going to draw down a veil of secrecy."'

Nobody at the hearing questioned the fact that the president was born in Hawaii.

If the measure is passed, the state Office of Information Practices could declare an individual a "vexatious requester" and

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: artbell; awgeez; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; conspiracy; coverup; obama; tinfoilhat; transparency
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1 posted on 03/17/2010 7:56:06 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki

No, we are only, very reasonably and politely, asking to see the original real paper BC ...

Not some online scan.

Why why why does this make us nuts or unreasonable conspiracy theorists???

Aren’t we just realists?

J McCain let everyone hold his paper BC in their hands,

why not Obama?

Why not?

What is he hiding?

Why will no reporter even ask him?

Why?


2 posted on 03/17/2010 7:58:55 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Schnucki
Hawaii Health Director Dr Chiyome Fukino issued statements last year and in October 2008 saying that she had seen vital records that prove Mr Obama is a natural-born American citizen.

Lying journalist. The statements said no such thing.

3 posted on 03/17/2010 7:59:45 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Schnucki

Amazing that no one thought to apply the same standard in Alaska when Sarah Palin was being bombarded by frivolous “ethics violation” charges.


4 posted on 03/17/2010 8:00:33 AM PDT by 84rules ( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
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To: Schnucki
"Sometimes we may be dealing with a cohort of people who believe lack of evidence is evidence of a conspiracy," said Lorrin Kim, from the Hawaii Department of Health.

Sometimes a couple million dollars in taxpayer money to hide a $10 certificate is evidence of a conspiracy.

5 posted on 03/17/2010 8:00:42 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Schnucki

Why should the state of Hawaii protect 0bama? I have doubts about whether he actually was born there, but the state should not be stonewalling on producing an actual long form birth certificate. If a legitimate one exits, produce it.


6 posted on 03/17/2010 8:02:05 AM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

How can he be a natural born citizen with, as the article describes, he has a KENYAN father, and an American mother?

He IS INELIGIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 03/17/2010 8:03:35 AM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Schnucki

Maybe Hawaii can be the first state to be kicked out of the Union... Last in first out...


8 posted on 03/17/2010 8:04:59 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Under Hawaii state law, the release of a birth certificate is prohibited for people who do not have a tangible interest.

In what universe does ensuring that the president of the Unite States is a natural born citizen NOT a tangible interest?

9 posted on 03/17/2010 8:05:22 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: bgill
Sometimes a couple million dollars in taxpayer money to hide a $10 certificate is evidence of a conspiracy.

Obama's advantage here is that we really don't know what he is hiding in this conspiracy. We know he's evil, anti-American, and a compulsive liar. What we don't know is whether he has a valid Hawaiian birth certificate and what it says if one exists. He might be hiding a non-citizen parent, his mother's marital status, or any of a number of other issues. Whatever he's afraid of, he thinks he gets enough mileage out of portraying his doubters as extreme or out of touch to outweigh the very limited damage that the cover up does with 90% of the media on the socialist's side.

10 posted on 03/17/2010 8:06:44 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Schnucki

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


11 posted on 03/17/2010 8:06:56 AM PDT by Dryman
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To: Schnucki

We don’t need it !

His father (choke) wasn’t an American.

b4 he runs in 2012 he has to prove his NBC.


12 posted on 03/17/2010 8:07:20 AM PDT by devistate one four (If you can't feed it, don't breed it! Kimber CDP II .45 OOHRAH! TET68)
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Hawaii Health Director Dr Chiyome Fukino issued statements last year and in October 2008 saying that she had seen vital records that prove Mr Obama is a natural-born American citizen.

1) She just made it a public issue by issuing a public statement.

2) Records with an "s" means there's more than just the one vault copy. IOW, there have been changes/amendments. What suddenly needed to be amended in '07?

3) Where in the Constitution does it say "natural-born American citizen? That must be a new animal because all I recall is native, naturalized, and natural born citizen.

4) She is not following HI rules and laws regarding this issue.

5) How many taxpayers' dollars is HI wasting in the cover up?

13 posted on 03/17/2010 8:08:05 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: BCR #226
How can he be a natural born citizen with, as the article describes, he has a KENYAN father, and an American mother?

At the time of his birth his father was a British citizen as Kenya was still a colonial possession. Obama recieved British citizenship by virtue of his father's citizenship. Of course, your conclusion is still true - Obama cannot be a natural born citizen of the United States.

14 posted on 03/17/2010 8:09:18 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: BCR #226

AMEN!

I don’t need a supreme court to read it to me.

I can read it for myself.

All of these so called officials are ducking thier resposibility.


15 posted on 03/17/2010 8:09:32 AM PDT by devistate one four (If you can't feed it, don't breed it! Kimber CDP II .45 OOHRAH! TET68)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Deny the overwhelming number of request to see the cerificate?

How about just granting one request to see it. One request should be all that they needed to recieve.

Show it, and the requests will instantly cease. Sheesh. It’s not rocket surgery.

So indeed what is he hiding? Citizenship? Real parent’s names? Professed religion? No father listed? His listed name? What are the possibilities?


17 posted on 03/17/2010 8:10:20 AM PDT by getitright (If you call this HOPE, can we give despair a shot?)
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To: bgill

Law of nations.

Read it.


18 posted on 03/17/2010 8:11:02 AM PDT by devistate one four (If you can't feed it, don't breed it! Kimber CDP II .45 OOHRAH! TET68)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
J McCain let everyone hold his paper BC in their hands

He did not, he showed it privately to one reporter.

19 posted on 03/17/2010 8:11:13 AM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Schnucki

If the legislature passes this law, I will be stongly inclined to make an e-mail request myself. Does anybody know the e-mail address?


20 posted on 03/17/2010 8:11:18 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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