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Virginia AG outlines Obama eligibility test
WorldNetDaily ^ | MARCH 16, 2010 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 03/16/2010 11:22:52 AM PDT by RobinMasters

A newly released recording reveals a state attorney general explaining how the president's eligibility could be tested in the courts by a lawyer defending a client against an accusation brought under legislation signed by Obama.

The recording of Virginia Attorney General Kenneth T. Cuccinelli puts him on a growing list of elected leaders, members of Congress and state officials who have addressed concerns over Obama's eligibility to occupy the White House.

Cuccinelli released a statement this week that the recording, apparently made either while he was campaigning for the office or shortly after he was elected, was a "hypothetical" answer to a "hypothetical" question.

Officials in Cuccinelli's office did not respond to WND requests for comment today. But earlier in a statement released to Politico, Cuccinelli tried to separate himself from the recording, confirming, "I absolutely believe that President Obama was born in the United States. I don't buy into the claims that he wasn't."

But the audio record makes clear his ideas:

IS ATTORNEY GENERAL KEN CUCCINELLI A BIRTHER

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; cuccinelli; eligibility; naturalborncitizen; virginia
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1 posted on 03/16/2010 11:22:52 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; traderrob6; OL Hickory; socialismisinsidious; trlambsr; Altera; ...

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2 posted on 03/16/2010 11:23:06 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

He was only answering a question. He never said he was going to step up and put action behind his words. Sounds like political talk.


3 posted on 03/16/2010 11:25:46 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: RobinMasters; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ...
Ping to the Unqualified President Defence in Court.

Notice how quickly the MSM is grabbing this story and running with it.

I mean Drudge should have it at least. This is big nubes!

4 posted on 03/16/2010 11:27:59 AM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: RobinMasters

“It doesn’t strike me as beyond the realm of possibility” sounds to me like “there might be a 1 in 1000 chance.”

Much ado about nothing.


5 posted on 03/16/2010 11:30:52 AM PDT by freespirited (We're not the Party of No. We're the Party of HELL NO!!!)
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To: RobinMasters

He answered a question as truthfully as he could. Without lying as Obama and his thugs would do. He says basically, someone will break a law that obama signed off on, they will be caught and go to court and say Obama is not president and the law is void. Then Obama will have to prove he was president so the criminal can be prosecuted under his law. Now he is a birther?

Where this may not work, is the military cases were thrown out or dropped pretty much based on the same principle that obama has no right to send them to Iraq or wherever. All Obama would have to do is order the criminal DOJ department to drop charges.

It’s like two mafia crime families finally gaining power over all of the United states. DOJ Eric Holder wanting this much power forever and muslim Obama wanting US destruction forever.


6 posted on 03/16/2010 11:45:46 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: Candor7; LucyT
He says basically, someone will break a law that obama signed off on, they will be caught and go to court and say Obama is not president and the law is void.

Where this may not work, is the military cases were thrown out or dropped pretty much based on the same principle that obama has no right to send them to Iraq or wherever.

I have said this several times. But all this represents is a description of a person who might become a party who would have standing to assert the claim. The military guys who challenge an order are the classic case.

And then, Obama has responded in the military cases by simply dismissing the basis for the claim. Same would happen in the case of breach of a federal law.

The real case is legislation where someone has an affirmative duty that they don't want to perform (pay taxes or fees etc.) and which the President doesn't really have any capability to withdraw.

Then you get to the real problem. You have identified a plaintiff who has standing; he has a claim which would work if Obama is not eligible; we know Obama is in fact not eligible because he was born in Mombasa--the result is not automatic. Because when you get to the courthouse with those conditions, you will be met by some of the highest powered lawyers in the world to resist. And unless you have the same quality of legal help, you lose anyway.

7 posted on 03/16/2010 11:56:45 AM PDT by David (...)
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I still think that the “birthers” are going at this all wrong. Instead of trying to find ways to have the sitting President prove that his is eligible, we should be focused on making sure that no one is ever able to get that far in the next round of elections.

We simply need one state to pass a law requiring that every candidate for Federal office be able to prove that they are eligble. The state could specify what documents should be presented in order to prove it.

Pretty simple, yet I have heard nothing about any state doing that.


8 posted on 03/16/2010 12:05:28 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I do not live in Vermont. I did for four years and that was plenty.)
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To: Vermont Lt
We simply need one state to pass a law requiring that every candidate for Federal office be able to prove that they are eligble. The state could specify what documents should be presented in order to prove it.

I forget which state, but I believe that at least one state has this on the agenda right now. If not, they should.

Forget my state. It's as blue as MA.

9 posted on 03/16/2010 12:09:09 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: RobinMasters

All the Virginia AG has to do is demand that all presidential candidates prove they are eligible. Then let the 0bama-trons get into a big tussle whether the AG can demand a birth certificate. Let them take the AG to court....I would welcome that

These guys have no cojones so I’m still waiting for an AG to do it


10 posted on 03/16/2010 12:12:03 PM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: Vermont Lt

I am of the opinion that we should continue to fight the usurper tooth and nail every day he is in the White House illegaly. We need to make his life a living he!!. Cut him no slack. At the same time, do as you suggested. Make dam#@d sure that NO ONE gets as far as Ø has done.


11 posted on 03/16/2010 12:12:44 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (ZEROs FAVORITE SONG -- I, ME, MINE -- BY THE BEATLES)
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To: Vermont Lt
Oklahome is one.

Short Title: Elections; legislative referendum; creating the Candidate Identification Act of 2010; requiring proof of citizenship for certain candidates; codification; noncodification; effective date; ballot title; filing.

I don't know when it is up for a vote.

Candidate ID Act of 2010, Oklahoma

12 posted on 03/16/2010 12:23:11 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Vermont Lt; dennisw

As I posted many times, 0b0z0 won’t be running for reelection, precisely because of the fear of being “REQUIRED” to prove his eligibility.

To make certain of ousting 0kaka, an accented, naturalized American should run for POTUS in ‘12. If he/she is thrown out as he/she should be, then he/she WILL HAVE STANDING to sue for proof of ALL other candidates’ eligibility!

This is why I believe that 0b0z0 will never dare to run for reelection.


13 posted on 03/16/2010 12:30:39 PM PDT by melancholy
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To: freespirited; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; EDINVA; Convert from ECUSA; pissant; LucyT; BP2; george76; ...
"It doesn't strike me as beyond the realm of possibility" sounds to me like "there might be a 1 in 1000 chance."

Not necessarily. We simply don't know what probability number was in Cuccinelli's mind at the time he made the remark in the video. What we can say is that he changed his tune from that remark to when he now states, "I absolutely believe President Obama was born in the United States." Did some "Godfather" make Cuccinelli an offer he can't refuse?

14 posted on 03/16/2010 12:33:31 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Candor7; RobinMasters
I'm thinking there's a good chance that his navel is not real.


15 posted on 03/16/2010 12:39:16 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Get rich... Fire the government)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Vermont Lt; NCC-1701
60+ Lawmakers 7 States Tell Obama; if you want on 2012 ballot, RELEASE THE RECORDS!
16 posted on 03/16/2010 12:39:45 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Vermont Lt
Here are a couple of links to information about state efforts to require proof of constitutional eligibility: http://www.scribd.com/doc/27721631/Table-of-Bills-Pending-in-State-Legislatures-Regarding-Eligibility-for-the-Presidency
http://www.maricopagop.org/2010/03/03/60-lawmakers-7-states-tell-obama-if-you-want-on-2012-ballot-release-the-records

I agree with you that this is probably the best tactic to take on the eligibility issue. Let's not kid ourselves though. The Obama people and their sycophants will no doubt try to tie up these efforts in court, just like they do with requirements to produce a picture ID to vote. Efforts to combat fraud will be resisted at all costs.

17 posted on 03/16/2010 12:43:33 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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"I absolutely believe that President Obama was born in the United States. I don't buy into the claims that he wasn't."

We have a problem.
This is exactly the answer I receive from every elected Republican official I have asked. Apparently, Affirmative Action Anus Steele isn't totally useless. At least he got the misdirection memo out to all the elected Republicans.

Notice the neat slip-by of the "Natural Born Citizen" issue? "Born in Hawaii" doesn't make Obama a "Natural Born Citizen," Cooch. Even Obama knew that much. All he ever claimed on his website is that he was a "Native Born Citizen," which is apparently good enough for bactrackin' Cuccinelli."

Man up, Cooch, this could be your big national moment, ya frickin' weasel.

18 posted on 03/16/2010 12:45:12 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama? Definitely eligible to be Prime Minister of the UK.)
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To: RobinMasters

Facts the AG could use:

1) Lolo Soetoro, a Colonel in the Indonesia Army under General Sukarno, adopted Barack Hussein Obama II.

2) Barry Soetoro, with his new dad and mom, moved to Indonesia to be a part of a Indonesian family living, working and receiving an education with the all rights and privileges military officer and his family expected under the dictatorship of General Sukarno.

3) Since Barry was living in Indonesia and planned to live there permanently, he applied to the US Embassy for a Certificate of Loss of Nationality (CLN). Contrary to popular belief, if any American moves out of the country and sets up a household with a military officer of a foreign dictatorship, the US SoS doesn’t make it difficult to renounce your US Citizenship. Proof of Barry’s Indonesian citizenship is in his 2nd grade school record.

4) Barry was identified as an orphaned or abandoned refugee and provided expedited travel papers and transportation back to his American grandparents in 1971-72. Barry’s refugee status explains his Connecticut SSN. An American Refugee Organization (ARO) from Connecticut working with the US DoS arranged for Barry to receive his SSN card through their mailing address as an legal alien.

Yes, Barry is a legal alien and Indonesian National.

5) Someone financed a trip for Barack Obama, SR. to come back to Hawai’i and appear in Hawai’i District Court to complain Barry was adopted without his consent. After the Court voided the Soetoro adoption, the Court ordered a new vital record to be created and “filed” by the Hawai’i DoH stating the facts we know as the online FTS COLB. The Court did not see fit to name a doctor, hospital or administrator. All other information was Court Ordered, i.e. father’s race as African was from a culturally sensitive Judge and not a CDC recommended classification of race.

6) Barry Soetoro became persona non grata. Legally speaking, BHO II is technically correct when he says he has never been Barry Soetoro. But his nationality, regardless of the name change, is Indonesian.

7) His CLN is on file with the DoS, DHS, IRS and FBI.


19 posted on 03/16/2010 1:16:43 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Quo Warranto better than Apocolypto)
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To: RobinMasters

Birthers are so desperate for validation that they insist that people who don’t agree with them are actually on their side.


20 posted on 03/16/2010 1:47:41 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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