Effectively by fiat.
Posted on 03/14/2010 1:31:24 PM PDT by callisto
fiat [ˈfaɪət -æt], n., a legally binding command or decision; an arbitrary order or decree
A very dangerous act is being attempted by the Left to secure their rule over the American people and transform the legislative process from a Constitutional Republic to a government by fiat. Today on Fox News Sunday, Democratic leader Rep. Chris Van Hollen admitted Democrats intend to use the unconstitutional “Slaughter Rule” as a solution to ram nationalized health care through Congress without majority vote and in defiance to the will of the American people.
The Slaughter rule would declare that the House of Representatives “deems” the Senate health care bill “passed” by the House. House members would have to vote on whether to accept the rule, but would then be able to claim they only voted for a rule, not for the bill itself. In other words, Democrats will avoid a direct vote on the health care bill while allowing it to become law! They will take over one-sixth of the US economy without voting on it in direct violation to the legislative process defined by the U.S Constitution. Article I, Section VII, Clause II specifically states,
"Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States;... But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively."
(Excerpt) Read more at newsrealblog.com ...
If this is the game, then the democrat majority doesn’t exist. The majority can be “deemed” to belong to any party.
If this is the the way to do things, executive power can be deemed to belong to anyone.
... as if national socialized “health care” is constitutional. No, it won’t do to replace the democrat majority with a republican majority, because it will be on us like herpes. The republicans have a great record of repealing social security, medicare, medicaid, amtrack, department of education, department of energy, on and on and on.... if it passes, we’re screwed.
I have always been and still am a life-long Conservative and member of the Republican Party since 1970. That is why I’m no longer looking at Senator McCain as a dedicated American.
I’ve examined closely his political stands and prior acts. Senator McCain has changed radically.
Do you and others realize that now he believes in open-borders (a definite attack against our nation’s sovereignty), the non-enforcement of our laws with which he disagrees, and the restriction of freedom of speech?
Include that with some of the radical nonsense he was considering at The Reform Institute, reforms involving radical environmentatlism where you, the citizen, is treated as a non-entity.
He has taken contributions from George Soros, a former Nazi collaborator and well known anti-Constitutionalist, who despises Americans and everything America stands for in our global defiance of totalitarianism. If this is the kind of person he’ll take money from, what does that say about his values and what does that mean for the citizenry of the U.S.A.?
And you think it is I who should reassess MY priorities?
>Let them pass it and Obama sign it. Constitutional Grounds for IMPEACHMENT of PELOSI and OBAMA!
It’s Declaration of Independence grounds for disbanding the federal government; it’s Constitutional grounds for hanging people.
If the Congress does this, my flag turns upside down, and I will absolutely refuse to go on any form of “ObamaCare,” and I will NOT abide by the laws that are meant to administrate it. If I’m the only one, I’ll go to prison alone. I have an idea, however, that I won’t be alone — perhaps MILLIONS will join me...
Things are getting close. Really really close...
Excerts from Mark Steyn link.
Indeed. Look at it from the Dems’ point of view. You pass Obamacare. You lose the 2010 election, which gives the GOP co-ownership of an awkward couple of years. And you come back in 2012 to find your health care apparatus is still in place, a fetid behemoth of toxic pustules oozing all over the basement, and, simply through the natural processes of government, already bigger and more expensive and more bureaucratic than it was when you passed it two years earlier. That’s a huge prize, and well worth a midterm timeout.
I’ve been bandying comparisons with Britain and France, but that hardly begins to convey the scale of it. Obamacare represents the government annexation of “one-sixth of the U.S. economy” – i.e., the equivalent of the entire British or French economy, or the entire Indian economy twice over. Nobody has ever attempted this level of centralized planning for an advanced society of 300 million people. Even the control-freaks of the European Union have never tried to impose a unitary “comprehensive” health care system from Galway to Greece. The Soviet Union did, of course, and we know how that worked out.
Ping.
>>Already tried...and to no avail.
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>Yep, getting tierd of being “civil”.
“It’s time to put the ‘civil’ back in Civil War!”
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They'll find out PDQ when the food trucks stop arriving at the inner-city groceries.
I just might be doing that.
That would make for some very interesting situations.
HOWEVER, I believe that Article I, section 5 says that 87 Members can require the journaling of the yeas and the nays on ANY measure, including any Bill - and that the Senate Bill cannot be "deemed" passed without a recording of the yeas and the nays on THAT measure, if 87 Members so require.
dittos
Interesting read and I’m all for the idea.
As Shakespeare said, “Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war.”
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