Posted on 02/28/2010 3:36:30 PM PST by Libloather
Republicans Gird for Democrats' End Run on Health Care
FOXNews.com
Updated February 28, 2010
The Senate appears to be gearing up to use a rare budgetary maneuver to push through a Democratic-supported health care plan, but even the Senate Democrat's top budgeter says it can't be used for wholesale reforms.
The Senate appears to be gearing up to use a rare budgetary maneuver to push through a Democratic-supported health care overhaul, but even the Senate Democrat's top budgeter says it can't be used for wholesale reforms.
**SNIP**
Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said the funding elements of the bill won't balance spending the way Democrats assert.
The Congressional Budget Office's claims for a $132 billion reduction in the deficit over 10 years is based on its inability to strip out aggravating details, he said, but much of the legislation that would be passed through reconciliation involves the double-counting that sends the package into the red.
"The legislation that's been put in front of them is full of smoke, mirrors and gimmicks. ... If you take all the double counting out of the bill, which the CBO can't do because that's the way it's put in front of them, this thing has a $460 billion deficit in the first 10 years, a $1.4 trillion deficit in the second 10 years," he said.
"Let me give you an example. It double counts Medicare cost savings. It double counts increased taxes for Social Security, increased premiums for this new CLASS Act. ... If you're going to say that all these Medicare cuts are improving the solvency of Medicare, which is what they say, then you can't use that money to spend on the creation of another government program."
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Dems exploited the CBO loophole.
I don’t think so... I think Nancy is gonna muster up the votes. Unfortunantly.
Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Liberal termites: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lAaq1Ks0xnw/S1uGbfBYNGI/AAAAAAAAAHo/MsTgzhXPUwM/s1600-h/Prelutsky-Termites-Cover.jpg
No, she just wants donations from the base and will ride this as long as possible, once it is officially dead, no more donations from her kook base.
Dems just want the money!!! They don’t give a r&t’s &ss about the health care delivery system.
Medicare & Medicaid are broke - this is the only way to cover up and put Government in control of our lives, from conception to cremation.
It’s Americans who should be terrified of this scam.
Ten years of taxes for four years of health care which doesn’t start for four more years.
We have to keep pressing on that issue. Reid keeps insisting that time is of the essence. Another lie.
That has some role it but don’t be surprised when Obama and her offer a few of these dems on the fence some sort of post-election kickback to makeup for them losing their job.
I would rate the odds of reconciliation happening at about 95%.
Nancy says she has the votes.
The CBO is required to put the number with the assumptions put before them. The Rats play this CBO game like pros and the law requires the CBO to remain silent even if they know they are being taken.
All these propaganda pieces are from two PR from Pelosi and Axelrod released today !
I don't believe any of it.
That AFP article your quoting is a wrong.
Pelosi did not say that in her interview on ABC ( all barack channel)
The AFP is the that nutter news outlet and they make up staff such as a quote that was never said in the ABC interview ! It figures the Left wing crack pots at Yahoo leftist News would link to it !
Double counted? Is that Sesame Street math-like?
OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121
Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins.
(DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!
OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/
New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake. http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Friday, February 19, 2010
Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security
Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460358/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:
http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html
This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf
http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries
Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/
By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009
Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
Snip The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.
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Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.
“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.
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