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Jim DeMint: Irreconcilable Differences [Health care takeover]
DeMint's blog ^ | Feb 25, 2020 | Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC)

Posted on 02/25/2010 8:41:11 PM PST by upchuck

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1 posted on 02/25/2010 8:41:11 PM PST by upchuck
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To: upchuck; alrea; Babsig; Canticle_of_Deborah; Cheap_Hessian; conservativeharleyguy; ellery; ...

Jim DeMint Ping!

Want on or off this ping list? Just FReepmail me.

Follow Sen. DeMint on Twitter.

2 posted on 02/25/2010 8:41:56 PM PST by upchuck (I'm glad I'm old. Thus I can remember when America was a decent, moral, God fearing country.)
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To: itssme

See how this works?


3 posted on 02/25/2010 8:42:41 PM PST by upchuck (I'm glad I'm old. Thus I can remember when America was a decent, moral, God fearing country.)
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To: upchuck

Line by Line attack on anything not budget related.


4 posted on 02/25/2010 8:45:21 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: upchuck
Invoking onyx's rule.


5 posted on 02/25/2010 8:46:15 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: upchuck

Gotta love Jim DeMint......Way to go....


6 posted on 02/25/2010 8:47:12 PM PST by jakerobins
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To: All

I’ll use every tool available to me in the Senate to stop it.
_________________________________________________________
That’s what I like to see!

DeMint 2012!


7 posted on 02/25/2010 9:09:55 PM PST by Irenic
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To: jakerobins

What tools exactly does he have?


8 posted on 02/25/2010 9:10:24 PM PST by Freddd
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To: upchuck
Is it time yet, Claire?
9 posted on 02/25/2010 9:13:09 PM PST by JoeFromSidney
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To: upchuck
It's a socialist take-over of medicine. A 51 vote majority to get it done is mobocracy at it's finist. What's next? Newspapers and TV? (just kidding), Autos and Banks? (just kidding, again)

Can't shake the comparison between the CIC and Chavez and wonder when his 'troops' will start their rampaging and locking-up of dissidents. There's a lot riding on Novermber midterms.

Bankrupting America and using HealthCare as a flank so people are too pre-occupied to see what the plan really is might be the transparency we were promised. Seeing through their sh*t is just too easy.

Chilihead's got a couple years to get a 'crisis' stirring that he can exploit. Then we'll see just how insincere that toothy smile of his is, as well as his Hootchie's depth of pride in America- which still happens to be under construction. Shovel ready, indeed.

10 posted on 02/25/2010 9:28:23 PM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: upchuck

Marker


11 posted on 02/25/2010 9:32:37 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: upchuck
There can be no reconciliation or compromise with the destruction of freedom and liberty. Only rejection.

Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393

So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."

HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.

I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)


12 posted on 02/25/2010 9:33:44 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: Lakeshark

Ah, no comment on my addition?


13 posted on 02/25/2010 9:35:21 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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LOL.

Can't a poor boy get some sleep around here?

14 posted on 02/25/2010 9:37:01 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

LOL. I guess you can’t if you’re trying to sleep next to your computer.
What’s with THAT?


15 posted on 02/25/2010 9:38:30 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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*Ahem*

You might want to bring that up with the lady of the house........

I was just innocently heading to bed (after debating insulting a couple of "both parties suck and are the same types"), when the red light flashed......

:-)

16 posted on 02/25/2010 9:40:49 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

Goodnight.
I’m out of here too.


17 posted on 02/25/2010 9:42:33 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: upchuck

http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2010/02/25/sen-conrad-the-house-goes-first-or-obamacare-dies-thank-you-senator-demint/


18 posted on 02/25/2010 9:57:37 PM PST by Halcontent
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To: Freddd

Well there are procedures in place in the Senate...I think the Fillibuster(of the HC Bill) is off the table...But to be sneaky like a Dem he could allude to the fact that the Next bill Dems try and pass thru the Senate will be help up by a Filibuster......


19 posted on 02/25/2010 10:59:12 PM PST by jakerobins
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To: upchuck

Possible lib talking point RE reconciliation alert: The Republicans passed welfare reform via reconciliation back in the Clinton years.

Don’t know if it’s true but I saw a lib post it in the comments of a WaPo blog article.


20 posted on 02/25/2010 11:07:16 PM PST by Yardstick
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