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Obama's Ides-of-March Moment is Near
American Thinker ^ | February 24, 2010 | Monty Pelerin

Posted on 02/23/2010 11:06:33 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 02/23/2010 11:06:33 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

ping


2 posted on 02/23/2010 11:08:10 PM PST by unkus
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To: neverdem

I believe that the current cast of characters believes the world will keep buying our debt because of the ‘symbiotic’ relationship we have with them. They believe our debt holders won’t make a run on our bank. Basically, they are betting that the rest of the world will happily buy all the debt we are willing to issue. How this turns out? I don’t know.


3 posted on 02/23/2010 11:15:57 PM PST by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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"How this turns out? I don’t know."

I can tell you....

It ain't going to be pretty, no matter what!

4 posted on 02/23/2010 11:27:46 PM PST by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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IMHO, the first two links complement each other.

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5 posted on 02/23/2010 11:28:26 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

My vote is for stopping the QE and getting the pain over with by, say 2012.


6 posted on 02/23/2010 11:32:20 PM PST by Post Toasties
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To: neverdem
QE was never intended to act as a long-term program to monetize the debt. Rather, it was a short-term mechanism that was utilized to manipulate consumer confidence aka "green shoots".

Its purpose was two-fold: (a) make excess liquidity available to fund short-term gov't expenditures ie 'stimulus'; and (b) provide a hard ceiling on interest rates for treasury & agency debt.

QE could never hope to actually 'inflate away the debt' simply because the $USD is linked to a hard oil peg. That is why all Fed printing conducted to date has been through extremely convoluted channels. If the true extent of the Fed's illegal activities were ever discovered, we'd see a collapse in the value of the $USD.

As a short-term ploy ie a 'hail Mary' it was deemed worth the risk. But as a long-term policy prescription, forget it. So when push comes to shove, Ben is going to have to terminate QE.

Like Norma Desmond, the good ole USA is nearing its close-up known as the "Minsky moment".

7 posted on 02/23/2010 11:46:33 PM PST by semantic
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To: FromLori

ping


8 posted on 02/23/2010 11:46:40 PM PST by perchprism (To those about to revolt, we salute you.)
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To: lmr
"they are betting that the rest of the world will happily buy all the debt we are willing to issue"

But that is the point, they are not buying all of our debt now. Monetizing the debt (QE as it is called hear) Started last year for the first time in American history. No country has ever successfully monetized their debt, think USSR. This is a path that takes courage to change course, no way the government in this country will do that. So the dollar has to collapse eventually, the sooner the better. Once it does we can start to heal, but it is going to be painful, really painful. Qualifier: JMHO
9 posted on 02/23/2010 11:53:28 PM PST by JoSixChip (HOPE = Have Obumber Prove Eligibility)
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To: neverdem
"Obama loses either way. He inherited a difficult situation, but then, via foolish policies, he turned it into a terminal one. At this point, Jimmy Carter may be the happiest person in the country. His lead position in the Pantheon of Shame is in jeopardy thanks to Obama."

That's a tall order, but Øbama surpassed that record right out of the chute.

10 posted on 02/24/2010 12:02:34 AM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: SERE_DOC; Salamander; Slings and Arrows; Markos33; JoeProBono
The ending of these stories never is pretty -


11 posted on 02/24/2010 12:16:28 AM PST by shibumi (Health and well being for S. and L. - in Jesus name we pray!)
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To: semantic
The Federal government and California state government both thought they could just ride out this recession and everything would return to “normal” growth like it nearly always has. They paid no attention to the actual cause of this recession - extreme debt. You can’t stimulate an economy that is broke due servicing extreme debt. When the stimulus is gone, the debt is still there, even more debt because the stimulus was borrowed money as well...

Both the Federal government and our state governments are going to be forced to deal with reality sooner than later and start cutting spending across the board. They have no choice and the longer they wait the more extreme the consequences.

12 posted on 02/24/2010 12:30:33 AM PST by DB
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To: neverdem
China is selling treasuries not buying them

Yesterday an indirect buyer bought the entire 6 billion 2yr auction at zero percent interest. Indirect may well = the government buying its own debt. This is an extreme example but the USA has had a significant number of failed and semi-failed bond auctions for the past 6 months. Sometimes the primary dealers buy them (the banks) and they are then sold back to the Fed. There have been other quirky gimmicks.

Buying your own debt is like writing checks to yourself, depositing them, and then claiming you have more money in the bank. It is a hidden form of QE, It is the same as printing money. It will destroy the dollar (think rising gasoline prices).

The real reason for the health care package is not health care (which does not kick in until 2013... 2014 ...2015... never) but is a tax increase which does start 2010. They need to find some real money somewhere. Hence the suggestion is floated of turning 401Ks and IRAs into an annuity (repackaged Social Security which is broke). The idea is to take the money in your 401K and give you a government IOU (promise) of payment when you retire. They set the figure and the amount, with a devalued dollar, they come out ahead. You, of course, get riped off.

They are broke and will not stop spending. FDIC is broke, Social Security is broke, Medicare etc. is broke.

The only thing is Europe, China Japan are in worse shape. AIG may, by the way, have also insured Greek Debt, and others. Guess who will get the bill for that? (Who bailed them out before?) The bad mortgage debt of Freddy and Fanny has also been passed on to the Treasury.

This is going to blow up, globally! The question is not if but when.

13 posted on 02/24/2010 12:48:31 AM PST by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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"...the government will be unable to honor its obligations. Non-payment of Social Security or Medicare or federal payroll or welfare checks or retirement checks, or military payroll..."

If the military needed ANY reason at all to depose the illegal usurper in the White House, there it is. If the government is unable to pay it's bills, the government will collapse. A military government may end up being the only way to preserve order and (hopefully) end this 0bamunistic slide into oblivion for our Nation.
14 posted on 02/24/2010 12:50:06 AM PST by mkjessup (McCain: "We have nothing to fear from an 0bama Administration" (how's that workin out ya dumb ass?))
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To: neverdem

Ping


15 posted on 02/24/2010 2:11:10 AM PST by Rapscallion (OBAMA - President in Name Only (PINO))
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To: lmr

“the current cast of characters believes the world will keep buying our debt”

Which, of course, is ridiculous.

Look for war.


16 posted on 02/24/2010 2:20:11 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: lmr
It is obvious from the article the world has already stopped buying American debt in sufficient amounts to support our federal government's profligate spending.

The whole point of this piece is "the party is already over."

America's choices now are reduced to "do we want to be shot or hanged?"

The fed stops printing money to finance government debt and the economy and federal government pretty much come to a screeching halt. If the Fed keeps printing money to finance the debt, roaring inflation destroys the value of the U.S. Dollar.

17 posted on 02/24/2010 3:34:26 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority (As Wichita falls so falls Wichita Falls)
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To: neverdem

Sobering read this morning... Of course, this will all be “Bush’s fault”. “It was like that when I got here!”

How’s that hope & change working out?


18 posted on 02/24/2010 4:32:41 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: neverdem

Since there is,only one solution to the problem, inflation, massive inflation, the printing of money will continue.

QE is the only way out


19 posted on 02/24/2010 5:49:36 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: lmr

A Global Economic Meltdown, a.k.a., “The Great Depression II”

And the pity of it is that Obama could have avoided it. Yes, granted we were in a Recession, but Obama’s decisions made a Second Great Depression inevitable.

I think it was done with just that goal in mind: Wreck the economy and make everyone dependant on the government.

I wonder if he really thought a civil war wouldn’t break out? A revolutionary movement that would hold him guilty of treason?


20 posted on 02/24/2010 6:26:41 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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