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Joy of six (figures): 738 NYC teachers getting $100G+ pensions
NY Post ^ | 2/21/10 | SUSAN EDELMAN and CYNTHIA R. FAGEN

Posted on 02/21/2010 12:25:46 PM PST by jimbo123

They get an "A" in reading, writing -- and retirement.

There are 738 educators collecting city pensions more than $100,000 -- and three make more than $200,000, records show.

The $100,000-plus club makes up 1 percent of about 70,000 retirees in the city Teachers Retirement System, which doled out $3.8 billion in benefits in 2009.

It's the costliest of the five pension systems that threaten to suck the city dry.

"All the pension funds are ticking time bombs," said E.J. McMahon, a senior fellow with the Manhattan Institute think tank.

And the problem could worsen with the teachers union demanding raises of 4 percent over both of the next two years. This would add $5,600 a year to salaries of teachers now earning $70,000 or more. For every $1 pay hike, pensions go up 60 cents.

A Post Freedom of Information request to the TRS produced the list of the 738 highest-paid retirees -- who pull in a total of $84 million a year.

The 738 is more than five times the 142 retirees with pensions over $100,000 in the city's largest pension fund, NYCERS, whose 130,000 pensioners include transit, sanitation and other workers.

Ten of the retired educators have collected the generous payouts for 19 years.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nyc; unions
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1 posted on 02/21/2010 12:25:46 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

And now to retire in real estate depressed Florida . . . cha-ching!


2 posted on 02/21/2010 12:31:21 PM PST by RushingWater
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To: jimbo123

Using the term teacher to describe employees of the NYC Department of Education is a misnomer. They should be accurately described as baby sitters, classroom watchers or custodians of illiterates. There is little or no teaching in NYC public schools.


3 posted on 02/21/2010 12:33:01 PM PST by detective
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To: jimbo123

Using the term teacher to describe employees of the NYC Department of Education is a misnomer. They should be accurately described as baby sitters, classroom watchers or custodians of illiterates. There is little or no teaching in NYC public schools.


4 posted on 02/21/2010 12:33:18 PM PST by detective
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To: jimbo123

This is a ticking time bomb in cities across the country and is the result of an unholy alliance between Democrat politicians and the public sector union. This will bankrupt many cities and counties across the landscape.


5 posted on 02/21/2010 12:34:23 PM PST by centurion316
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To: jimbo123

Why are the taxpayers being forced to pay these people while they are sucking us dry?


6 posted on 02/21/2010 12:43:27 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: jimbo123

Check out California

“3,090 retired teachers and administrators receive pensions in excess of $100,000 from CalSTRS.

They’re all listed here

http://www.californiapensionreform.com/database.asp?vttable=calstrs

Source
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/18694/Search_the_CalSTRS_100,000_Pension_Club_database.html


7 posted on 02/21/2010 12:44:58 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: detective
There is little or no teaching in NYC public schools.

John Stossel had an education special on Fox News recently. Guess what, New York public school students can't read or write, yet the teacher's union and education establishment are after the charter schools, who are teaching their students just fine, and the test scores prove the results.

8 posted on 02/21/2010 12:46:51 PM PST by pray4liberty (Liberalism is the religion of narcissists.)
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To: jimbo123

70,000 retirees. 3.8 billion paid out. About $55,000 per year for pension. Not bad, not bad at all. It’s more than many make WORKING. Not to mention their benefits package and how that equates into the pension.


9 posted on 02/21/2010 12:59:45 PM PST by chichipow
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To: jimbo123

Making $100,000 a year in a government pension, is similar to a person in the private sector accumulating 2.5 Million dollars in an IRA/401K with their own monies set aside. Time to lock these people up.


10 posted on 02/21/2010 1:04:16 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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I tell all young people to go get a government job...sit on the hands and complain for 25-30 years and then retire like a king/queen. Beats the heck out of working your arse off in the private sector with all the risks involved.


11 posted on 02/21/2010 1:08:01 PM PST by northwinds
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To: samadams2000

Right you are. How many of US will ever be able to do this? For that matter, how many of us with equivalent or better educations will ever earn this much per year for a job with what amounts to 12 or more weeks per year of holidays and vacations?


12 posted on 02/21/2010 1:58:30 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: freekitty
“Why are the taxpayers being forced to pay these people while they are sucking us dry?”

Because that was the contract the taxpayers’ representatives made with the teachers.

I don't know about NY, but my teachers did a damn good job, despite my juvenile resistance. They didn't succeed in making an Einstein of me, but they did teach me the meaning of a contract & obligation. Whatever pension they earned, they deserved. I do not blame them if the gov’t made a bad bargain.

Many private companies had “defined benefit” pension plans too, whether they had union workers or not. Most have since changed their pension to “defined contribution” plans, which leaves the employer owing nothing further when the employee retires.

Gov’ts must also rid themselves of the DB pension plans, & the unions, too. If the unions don't like it, too bad. If they strike, fire the whole lot of them. But WE owe these retired employees their pensions & they should be paid in full.

If the city, county, state, and/or Feds can't afford it, perhaps they can abolish the 90% of gov’t that does nothing productive or beneficial, & pay the pensions. That right there would immediately cut future pension obligations & significantly reduce the power of the unions.

13 posted on 02/21/2010 2:18:36 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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“But WE owe these retired employees their pensions & they should be paid in full.”

Not when they are bringing the country to ruin they don’t.


14 posted on 02/21/2010 2:24:14 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

I’m all for paying them every penny they are due, in highly-inflated non-inflation-adjusted dollars. Sure it will be painful for everyone, but the party’s over and it’s time to pay the band.


15 posted on 02/21/2010 4:28:10 PM PST by The Duke
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To: freekitty
First, I don't believe the various levels of gov’t have quite reached the point of not being able to pay their obligations, including existing pensions. I do think Obama & Co. are quickly headed in that direction.

Second, to abandon these pensions is likely a death sentence for many of those deprived. Most are elderly.

Do you think it is reasonable to deny these pensions without first gutting our socialist gov’t of do-nothing bureaucrats? How about those lavish salaries & perks of our ruling class? Should they remain in place as pensioners starve? “Let them eat cake!”? Perhaps we should continue to feed the North Koreans, Afghans, etc. as we steal the livelihoods of old people. It would be stealing, you know.

Personally, I think that itself would bring our country to ruin.

FYI, I am not retired, pay lots of taxes, & do not have a defined benefit pension, but I respect the obligation we have to pay those pensions. I don't like it, just like I don't like paying bills. Too bad for me, & you.

16 posted on 02/21/2010 4:48:36 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: jimbo123

I am thinking the same thing with the 401K; etc that have been stolen.


17 posted on 02/21/2010 4:55:56 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Mister Da

F those sweetheart labor contracts. They were fraudulently entered into by teachers unions and the Democrat hacks they were in bed with. I see no obligation to honor them


18 posted on 02/21/2010 5:53:53 PM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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I hope those you do business with do not take the same attitude. Screw your mortgage, the bank is taking your house. Screw your insurance, they ain't paying. Screw your savings, the gov’t is taking that, too.

How well do you think you will fair in such a system? Will you be a thief or a victim?

19 posted on 02/21/2010 6:37:38 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Mister Da

All contracts have a moral aspect. This moral dimension is eroding more and more each year including for the marriage contract. Americans used to be moral and upright enough to where verbal contracts sealed with a handshake used to be sufficient most of the time


20 posted on 02/21/2010 9:47:28 PM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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