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If they try this reconciliation, which they may lose anyway, it will open the door for the GOP to use reconciliation for all kinds of things in the future. And the rate things are going, Democrats are going to lose control of the Senate in November. They will lose CO, NV, IL, AR, DE, ND, IN, PA, and at least one of NY, WA, WI, or CA. By the time Obama is done, it will be a long long time for Democrats to get back in control.
1 posted on 02/20/2010 10:50:17 AM PST by advance_copy
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The democrats claim that that way the republicans are using the filibuster today is unprecedented. They claim that the republicans pushed through much more under Bush with a smaller majority. In fact the only reason the filibuster is being used so much more in this congress is that the democrats are pushing a hyperpartisan agenda that was never attempted under replublican rule.

Except for the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts (which were a legitimate use of reconciliation) every major bill passed under Bush was bipartisan and had more than 60 vote for cloture and had plenty of Democrat support:

No Child Left Behind
The Patriot Act
The Iraq War use of force resolution
McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform
The Medicare Prescription Drug bill
Sarbanes-Oxley
The Bankruptcy reform bill
Expansion of SCHIP


2 posted on 02/20/2010 11:11:15 AM PST by arista
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3 posted on 02/20/2010 11:46:59 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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The title used (by The Hill) is deceiving based on what the article actually says. The GOP claims that they don’t know if 18 actually currently opposed reconciliation, that these Dems were just against it at some point in the past. Then when the Hill tried to reach these Senator’s offices (or used more recent statements from these Senators), most of them (I think 14 out of 18) basically said they are not opposed to reconciliation now if that’s what it takes.

I hope the GOP has a good Plan B. Because the threat of losing their seat over a high cost, lower quality of care health rationing bill, does not appear to bother these Dems.


4 posted on 02/20/2010 11:59:21 AM PST by coaltrain
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Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama's War on Seniors

Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security

http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Socialized Med Thread

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

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The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

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Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

Bambi doesn't keep his promises...so buyer beware

5 posted on 02/20/2010 12:24:25 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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This is really pretty simple:

If the slimy Dems think this will help them in November, they will support. If they think it does not help them, they will not support.

The are RATS, unable to coherently think of what is good for this country, but good for themselves.


6 posted on 02/20/2010 3:44:32 PM PST by bestintxas
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bttt


7 posted on 02/20/2010 8:29:49 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat (,)
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