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To: tired_old_conservative; MilspecRob

Have you seen the 25-30 item list of Obama’s records that they want? (I know you have.) We don’t have access to half of those records for other presidents much less presidential candidates. Their hatred for Obama has blinded them from basic common sense.


106 posted on 02/20/2010 12:26:02 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Yeah, I’ve seen it. Baptism records was my favorite.


108 posted on 02/20/2010 12:33:43 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: BuckeyeTexan
We don’t have access to half of those records for other presidents much less presidential candidates.
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This is a common DOJ talking point seen with some regularity on Free Republic.

1) The natural born status of modern presidents was **self-evident**!

Armies of relatives, friends, and neighbors would have willing ( and proudly) testified that they knew the parents well, visited the mom and baby soon after birth, delivered meals to the new family, attended the Christening, and watched the child grow to maturity. The testimony of these citizens is a high standard, indeed!

Obama is unique in that no one has come forward in his life capable of or willing to give this high standard of **self evident** witness and testimony.

2) No other president has had such a convoluted past of foreign paternity, foreign adoption by a foreign national, a significant percentage of his young childhood lived in a foreign nation, no record of repatriation, confusing and undocumented name changes, and questions about visas and passports. It is not self-evident how his education was funded. Was it as a foreign national?

Given that Obama’s early life is not self-evident and he has not or can not provide the high standard of having American citizens testify for his natural birth status, then it is ***REASONABLE*** for **RATIONAL** Americans to want to see a paper trail.

That long list you cite would be required of Olympic athletes if they too had a history similar to Obama’s. The toilet bowl cleaners in the White House would need to produce much of the same documentation. Americans by the thousands produce these **same** documents for many, many types of work in the U.S. This is especially true if a security clearance is needed for the work.

So?....An Olympic ice dancer with false eyelashes and fluffy costume is required to produce more evidence of their citizenship than a man who is in command of the world's most powerful military and has immediate access to the most destructive nuclear arsenal humankind has ever known.

UNBELIEVABLE!

And...Polls are showing that the numbers of Americans with serious questions about Obama’s eligibility are growing. Rational Americans know that it is very odd for Obama to be going to such amazing trouble to withhold documents that common and unanointed Americans produce regularly.

If Obama is doing this merely to make the birthers or conservatives look foolish, the American people will not find it a laughing matter. Obama used DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ATTORNEYS ( yes, I am shouting because it is outrageous!) to hide simple common documentation that other Americans would **willing** produce for any high level security position.

Obama has wasted the time of DOJ attorneys, court time, and tax money at a time when plots were being laid to shoot our soldiers on their bases and recruitment centers, blow up a packed to the brim airliner, and poison our soldiers. That isn't a JOKE!!!

Rational Americans do and will see Obama’s behavior as being the actions of a guilty man. An honest man with nothing to hide would NOT waste one second’s worth of time, or one dime of U.S. resources, in that manner. An honest man with nothing to hide would have released **all** of the requested information immediately. They would have been, in fact, HONORED to do so!

So...The polls show that Americans by the thousands upon thousands have serious questions about Obama’s eligibility. What is amazing is that this is nearly entirely due to word of mouth ( neighbor to neighbor, friend to friend, relative to relative,) and the Internet.

Please read my tag line. I have used it since I first joined Free Republic. AMERICANS ARE NOT STUPID!!

It will be IMPOSSIBLE for the Dems and Chicago thugs to paint that many Americans with the broad brush of being racists or fringe level “nutz”. AMERICANS ARE NOT STUPID!

There is only one president of which I know that did not have a transparent and self-evident natural born citizenship (or grandfathered prior to the Constitution). That was Chester Arthur and he too went to considerable effort to hide ( and even burn) important documents.

138 posted on 02/20/2010 5:31:47 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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