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1 posted on 02/01/2010 1:06:23 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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islam and FREE Republic cannot coexist.


121 posted on 02/01/2010 4:40:40 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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Since you claimed to have an epiphany...

I've travelled through and lived in Arab countries. My recommendation would be to visit one for an extended period of time and see if you like the culture built upon the religion. I recommend Oman. Never been there myself but I've heard it's a stable Muslim country without all the Western influences.

122 posted on 02/01/2010 4:43:09 AM PST by Justa
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Buddhism makes a lot more sense, heck, so does $cientology.. If you are going to play around with religion like a 12 year old tries hobbies, give those a shot.


125 posted on 02/01/2010 5:30:39 AM PST by mnehring
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CANNOT POST THIS ENOUGH!!!

“As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

Nation % Muslim
United States 1.0%
Australia 1.5%
Italy 1.5%
Norway 1.8%
Canada 1.9%
China 2.0%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Nation % Muslim
Denmark 2.0%
United Kingdom 2.7%
Germany 3.7%
Spain 4.0%
Thailand 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

Nation % Muslim
Switzerland 4.3%
Philippines 5.0%
Sweden 5.0%
The Netherlands 5.5%
Trinida and Tabago 5.8%
France 8.0%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).

Nation % Muslim
Guyana 10.0%
India 13.4%
Israel 16.0%
Kenya 10.0%
Russia 15.0%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Nation % Muslim
Ethiopia 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Nation % Muslim
Bosnia 40.0%
Chad 50.1%
Lebanon 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Nation % Muslim
Albania 70.0%
Malaysia 60.4%
Qatar 77.5%
Sudan 70.0%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Nation % Muslim
Bangladesh 83.0%
Egypt 90.0%
Gaza 98.7%
Indonesia 86.1%
Iran 98.0%
Iraq 97.0%
Jordan 92.0%
Morocco 98.7%
Pakistan 97.0%
Syria 90.0%
Tajikistan 90.0%
Turkey 99.8%
United Arab Emirates 96.0%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim: Nation % Muslim
Yemen 99.9%
Afghanistan 100.0%
Saudi Arabia 100.0%
Somalia 100.0%

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.”

– Leon Uris, “The Haj” Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threats


127 posted on 02/01/2010 5:45:29 AM PST by mouse1
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There is NO valid comparison of the holy books, the Bible and the Koran as to violence. The Bible mandates destruction of one group of people in one place in one (long completed) time period.All violence by Christians and Jews since that time has been extra-Biblical. The Koran mandates destruction or enslavement of ALL people everywhere at every time who do not submit to Islam. Religious based violence is not a factor in the modern world from Christians and Jews. It has been the prime factor in relations with Moslems and Moslem societies for 1300 years and is scheduled in the Koran and in the Hadiths and the Biography, all the authoritative writings of Islam for time in perpetuity or until there are nought but Moslems and the dead.


128 posted on 02/01/2010 5:51:09 AM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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Alzheimer's isn't pretty, but there are treatments that can slow your decline and improve the quality of your remaining years.

Hopefully someone who loves you will realize you've begun to decline and will take you to a doctor for a diagnosis and to begin your treatment.

There's no way a rational person could embrace the cult of mohammed Obviously you have suffered some profound mental degradation.

129 posted on 02/01/2010 6:29:10 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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“ISLAM MAY HAVE A POINT!”

Isalm has many points.
The point of a knife, the point of a gun, point of a sword, point of rock to stone rape victims to death, point of a scalpel to dismember a woman’s genitals, etc, etc,..


130 posted on 02/01/2010 6:35:53 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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I have experienced a religious conversion as well.

I no longer believe in a Christian, Jewish, Islamic, or other form of God.

I do not believe we can possibly comprehend the consciousness of God for He is ALL Consciousness, a concept that is so foreign to us, that we cannot possibly fathom it with our little 3-lb brains.

The Creator *IS* the Creation, and He is made out of Love.

133 posted on 02/01/2010 7:59:26 AM PST by Lazamataz (Hey Obama, Can You Hear Me Now....? GOOOOoood......)
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Hey, A Navy Vet...Do you know why camels are called the “Ships of the desert?”...Because they’re full of Muslim “seamen”


135 posted on 02/01/2010 8:09:43 AM PST by az.b1bbomberfxr
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This certainly explains some of your idiocy on display in those RKBA threads.

I'm sorry you've come to this. I sincerely hope you get it figured out before you do something terminally moronic.

143 posted on 02/01/2010 9:40:46 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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Sailor, your ship is sinking. You must leave it if you want to live.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

This eliminates all other religions. You must leave them if you want to live. Get in the lifeboat Vet.


144 posted on 02/01/2010 9:47:08 AM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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Sailor, your ship is sinking. You must leave it if you want to live.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

This eliminates all other religions. You must leave them if you want to live. Get in the lifeboat Vet.


145 posted on 02/01/2010 9:51:21 AM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (I Tim. 2:5)

There is obviously a huge void in your life you think will be filled by Islam. You are following after deception. I’ll pray that the Lord will open your eyes to “the Way, the Truth and the Life” (John 14:6).

“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”— Act 4:12

http://www.carm.org/islam


147 posted on 02/01/2010 10:32:27 AM PST by 444Flyer (Save the SEALs!(Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe, Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe/ Julio Heurtas))
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“After reading some more Koran tonight, I had an epiphany. “

More like gas.

Relax, the rest will pass shortly.

Use the ko-wrap paper to wipe when done.


151 posted on 02/01/2010 12:17:14 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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While I realize that Islam has been violent throughout its history, so has Judeism and Christianity (think Crusades).

I wish I had time to respond to every puerile historical comparison.
Life is too short.

I stopped reading right there.

155 posted on 02/01/2010 2:33:23 PM PST by Publius6961 (He is not America; he is an employee seemingly unable to rise to minimal expectations.)
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You're WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY off track.

Judaism doesn't insist that you go out there and conquer the entire world for Jehovah. This differentiates it from Islam.
Christ forgoes violence entirely.

It also ignores the fact that the Crusades were defensive wars against the Islamic foe threatening Constantinople and the Mediterranean.

156 posted on 02/01/2010 2:42:04 PM PST by Little Ray (Madame President sounds really good to me...)
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what a joke you are. first learn the difference between faith and religion. Jehovah, the God of christians and Jews is not the same as allah the god of islam.

you have heard the statement “allah akbar”? akbar, directly translated means “greater” as in “allah is greater”
you ask greater than who?
well if you have read the bible you would know that only one individual ever said he would raise himself above the most high(Jehovah) and that is lucifer. also known as satan. so if you want to waste you breath its on you.

you may be interested in a reformed PLO terrorists view, his name is Walid Shoebat. heres a couple links to some audio clips that explain it alittle better.
http://www.khouse.org/6640/KICDSSPII-2/
http://www.khouse.org/6640/KICDA03-1/
http://www.khouse.org/6640/KICDSSPIII-2/
http://www.khouse.org/6640/KIDVD21-2/

Its all good but check out Walids bits.

by the way,faith saves and religion kills

157 posted on 02/01/2010 3:49:42 PM PST by gdc61
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Even Moslems dont trust Moslems...

From a New Zealand newspaper 150 years ago...

To have heeded this warning may well have helped prevent Ft Hood, and maybe 9/11...

A MAHOMEDAN’S ADVICE.
Taranaki Herald, Volume VII, Issue 324, 16 October 1858, Page 4

A MAHOMEDAN’S ADVICE.

[From the Ptmjabee, May IS.] The following has been sent to us by a friend at Delhi. It is from the pen of a Mahomedan, of some intelligence, and containing as it does his opinion on his countrymen and his creed, is worth attention :—

With God’s grace I have been spared the fate of many of my Mahomedan brethren. God the one, and only God knows the secrets of every heart, knows that neither myself nor family ever entertained disaffection towards the British rule. We have for three generations been pensioners. The rebellion in which both innocent and guilty have perished, has been brought about by Mahomedan fanaticism, in the wild delusion, that the Prophet had decreed that the British rule should only last for one hundred years after the battle of Plassey ; and that after this the Mahomedan’s power would be as supreme as ever.

You are acquainted with the history of Hindoostan. I need not tell you that similar rebellions used’to occur, and will now continue to occur, so long as the British place confidence in any but their own. We Mahomedans are not true to ourselves, or to our God, how can we be true to those whom we are taught from our infancy to consider inimical to our religion ?

Few Mahomedans like myself venture to think for themselves, but are bigoted to the early notions inculcated by our Moulvees, and spiritual teachers j to argue, or think freely, would be considered the crime of crimes. It is a fact that the Sheeas would kill the Soonies, and the Wahalees both, though the three sects are essentially Mahomedans. We are not true to each other, how can we be expected to be faithful to the British ? T

he rebellion is not over yet, the British are making a greater mistake than ever j they formerly, as a precaution, only entertained 900 Hindoos to 100 Mahomedans, they are now entertaining 900 Mahomedans to 100 Hindoos; they are thereby increasing the firing and reducing the water, and I know the tenets of my own faith. lam perfectly satisfied that the mere consideration of pay will notalter or restrain my brethien,in their moral obligations to the Prophet, and we shall have all these horrors and murders again.

I, as an individual, with my family, though of the Mahomedan faith, are well wishers to the British, and hail their rule as a blessing to our country ; hence when the rebellion was going on in Delhi, I showed my loyalty by communicating with B. and C.

It was God’s will that I should be a traitor to my own — it was my fate, hut my life having been spared, tolls me that though I may have violated the tenets of my oithodox faith, yet God, the only God, has made it the instrument of saving my life. In telling you all this, as my friend, and one to whom I must ever be indebted for past kindness, I would venture to suggest a few policies.

Ist. Do not depend on the integrity of any native army, whether Mahomedan or Hindoo. Have European soldiery.

2nd. Never “teach the Natives of India the ail of war, the use of arms, the cannon, it will only be turned against their masters, as proVen in the late rebellion.

3rd. Let your revenue treasuries and military magazines be confided to the care of Europeans alone.

4th. Do not have any independent states, no royal pensioners ; remember the cub of the tiger, caged ever so young, has had while in its mothers womb instilled in its nature the thirst for blood.

5th. Do not suppose that any Mahomedan serving a Christian master can ever be honest, be the amount of his salary what it may. He serves only for gain. He will deceive you, and be corrupt; his dis. honesty, for serving a Christian, is the only atonement he can make to his Prophet. It is the only hope for pardon. Integrity would be perdition to his soul.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=TH18581016.2.11&cl=search&srpos=18&e=-07-1839—12-1869—10—11——1Secord-all&st=1


160 posted on 02/01/2010 5:17:41 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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Future jihadi, eh?
Elif air ab dinich.


163 posted on 02/02/2010 1:15:53 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9: 5), fight with them, (Q. 8: 65), even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29), Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tell clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q. 3: 85), It relegates those who disbelieve in Quran to hell (Q. 5: 11), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q. 9: 28), It orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (Q. 2: 193).
It says that the non-believers will go to hell and will drink boiling water (Q. 14: 17).
It asks the Muslims to slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace and that “they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter” (Q.5: 34).
“As for the disbelievers”, it says that “for them garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowls and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods” (Q. 22: 9).
Quran prohibits a Muslim to befriend a non-believer even if that non-believer is the father or the brother of that Muslim (Q. 9: 23), (Q. 3: 28).
Quran asks the Muslims to “strive against the unbelievers with great endeavor (Q. 25: 52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (Q. 66: 9).
The holy Prophet demanded his follower to “strike off the heads of the disbelievers”; then after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives” (Q. 47: 4).
As for women the book of Allah says that they are inferior to men and their husbands have the right to scourge them if they are found disobedient (Q. 4:34).
It teaches that women will go to hell if they are disobedient to their husbands (Q. 66:10).
It maintains that men have an advantage over the women (Q. 2:228).
It not only denies the women’s equal right to their inheritance (Q. 4:11-12), it also regards them as imbeciles and decrees that their witness is not admissible in the court (Q. 2:282).
This means that a woman who is raped cannot accuse her rapist unless she can produce a male witness.
Muhammad allowed the Muslims to marry up to four wives and gave them license to sleep with their slave maids and as many “captive” women as they may have (Q. 4:3).
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.191
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.123
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.005
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/008.qmt.html#008.065
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.029
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.085
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html#005.011
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.028
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/02.qmt.html#02.193
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/014.qmt.html#014.017
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html#005.034
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/022.qmt.html#022.009
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.023
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.028
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/025.qmt.html#025.052
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/066.qmt.html#066.009
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/047.qmt.html#047.004
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.034
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/066.qmt.html#066.010
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.228
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.011
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.282
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.003

Lying is permissable in Islam: http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muslim/032.smt.html
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/049.sbt.html
Especially to facilitate murder.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/059.sbt.html#005.059.369


165 posted on 02/02/2010 1:57:26 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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