Mother sues (Nashville TN) schools over unauthorized gynecological exam (6 Year old child)

Trashville City Paper ^ | 01/22/2010 | Trashville City Paper

[cva66snipe]

Here's what you're not understanding. When the pro's examine for such it is done in a relaxed setting and several witnesses. I know of no doctor or nurse who alone would do such an exam even in a doctors office. Remember as parents the kids parent usually goes back to the exam room with the kids especially younger ones and mothers usually take their daughters to the doctor for that specific purpose. Not even a doctor will examine in that manner alone. It can be done by a nurse sure but it's done at places that know what the heck they are doing and looking for.

One word of advice to parents. Teach your children how to survive in a school restroom. Teach them some basic self defense moves so they can get the heck out of there if attacked.

Schools should not even have nurses. It is not thwe schools place to provide healthcare. The only exception to this in Tennessee is or rather was schools that were once set up to deal with kids that had medical needs.

One other point. The child had a known UTI history. The nurse would have been the one giving the antibiotics at school and the principal seeing the doctors excuses. IOW the childs doctor would know or suspect something wrong long before them right? Anybody knows UTI's are painful especially a nurse. Sometimes it takes several doctors visits to locate the source of the UTI as it can require scoping the childs bladder which is usually a last resort for obvious reasons. Meaning that something as simple as a small bladder or a bladder not emptying out completely can cause chronic UTI's. Nurses know this. I didn't even mentuion bladder stones.

Now let me show you how quick this could have ended up being real bad for the parents and the kid as well. If the kid had a bladder stone and passed one earlier that day there would likely be blood. The kid would be in pain as well. With a UTI history you look for that as a possibility and not for molestation. But the nurse asking that question was looking for molestation. Blood under such conditions would be assumed as abuse.

Drop a dime and off goes the child to foster care while the parents have no idea as to what actually happened. IOW the parents could have been answering a lot of needless questions based on the nurses impulses and a kid subjected to some some mental evals that were not needed plus a considerable time in foster care till it got sorted out.

This was gross overkill and unnecessary. It would be the same as a 7-11 clerking shooting someone because they SUSPECTED they were going to be robbed. OOPs he was unarmed and his wife sent him in for a candy bar oh well.

[nikos1121]

I agree, but as a doctor, I’m not thinking that if I see a 6 yr old with recurrent UTIs. I want to see if the hymen is in place... as I suspect this nurse was doing...

[Scotsman will be Free]

Correct.

[Scotsman will be Free]

“And even though you have wished me ill I hope,...”
Wished you ill?
But, but, but I’m only wishing that you get to enjoy a system that you defend, think highly of, and support. How’s that wishing you ill?
Oh, typical statist thinking. Only the peasants have to put up with $hitty govt programs. That isn’t for the elite, like you.

[FreeLuna]

“Oh, typical statist thinking. Only the peasants have to put up with $hitty govt programs. That isn’t for the elite, like you.”

? I am a Statist?
1. You have no idea.
2. I want you or anyone else to say that to my face. We will see ill will.
3. Have fun wallowing in your own self-righteousness. I guess you just do want ever you want despite the laws. that’s called anarchy...good luck.

[GailA]

True. We have a lot of bad people out there.

I was going by my own experiences as a woman. Had my first UTI just after I got married. No one bothered to explain things to me if you get my meaning. Had an older GYN tell me to avoid bubble baths as they cause UTI's.

The mom should have been called and present at the very least. Witnesses are important as we all know.

But you would have thought her own PED doctor would have done such an exam if a child had recurrent UTI's. Or sent her to a OB/GYN if the situation was beyond his field.

[Scotsman will be Free]

“I guess you just do want ever you want despite the laws. that’s called anarchy...good luck.”
Point out where I stated that. Can’t, can you.
You have a reading comprehension problem. Go back several posts and re-read the part about child protective service employees behaving in criminal fashion. Re-read the parts about them NOT being held accountable to the law.
Does that sound like anarchy to you? Your education is lacking in more than one category.
“I am a Statist?”
I stated that was statist thinking. Darn ol’ reading comprehension problem again. This is in reference to your views on finger pointing on alleged abuse. You believe that the current system is hunkydory. One can gather, from reading your posts, that all is good with the system as is, which means you don’t believe that CPS employees should be accountable to the law. That’s statist thinking.

“2. I want you or anyone else to say that to my face. We will see ill will.”
Ohh, you brute. Please don’t hurt me.

[Shimmer1]

I totally fault her and if she’d have found something, I’d still fault her. I do NOT want any old person who wants to to make my child open her privates for inspection. No way.
There are ways to do this and this is not the way.

[FreeLuna]

“Ohh, you brute. Please don’t hurt me.”

Well,IF someone did, and I knew about it, I would report it. lol

I work within a system I hate. I love my clients. Many of them have been abandoned by family. I do my best to fight for conservative values while working in a flawed system. I never tried to defend the system. Just a fellow nurse who was wrong,but, may have truly cared and was afraid to report something until she could confirm it. The best thing we can do is defeat these bastards running things now. I don’t wish to have feuds with fellow FReepers. Do Scotsmen and Welshmen traditionally bicker?

[Scotsman will be Free]

“Do Scotsmen and Welshmen traditionally bicker?”
No. We war. Your folks and the Brits against the Scots.
“The best thing we can do is defeat these bastards running things now. I don’t wish to have feuds with fellow FReepers.”
Agreed. Sometimes I get a little hot under the collar when it comes to CPS. My apologies.
After 30 years as a policeman dealing with those asshats, and then a personal run-in with them, I hate their stinking guts. The CPS drone that I had my personal run-in with will never know how very, very close he came to dying. I had never wanted to really, really kill someone before. Luckily for him, me and my family I excercised self restraint.