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To: MestaMachine; blue-duncan; xzins; Jim Robinson
I agree with you about the taxpayer platform.

If you are not the author of post #4 (the one that I find sooooo disturbing) then where did it come from and why did you post it?

I concluded (since you posted it without attribution to any other source) that post #4 was the platform that YOU were proposing.

So, if you don't agree with the proposals in post #4, then why did you post it, and why are you so vigorously defending it when much of it is nothing more than a proposal for a tyrannical government exercising power from the right to replace the tyranny we now have coming from the left?

The tendency toward tyranny is not limited to just Commies and Socialists, but it is in the fallen nature of man. We are all tempted by power and we are all prone to tyranny as a measure of exercising that power.

It is the ability of men in leadership to resist the temptation to impose their agendas through tyrannical means that marks a heroic leader. But as Lincoln so aptly phrased it, "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely". Whether the power comes from the right or the left it is a corrupting influence.

Hence the direction that we should be heading in any conservative movement is to take power away from our elected officials and not to trade a socialist power structure for one that pretends to be conservative.

129 posted on 01/09/2010 11:55:22 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

Did you NOT read the introduction to this thread?
I posted this:

The National Action plan is the sole hard work of a longtime Freeper who has asked to remain anonymous. It is his work and since he first sent it to me, he has updated it several times for the better. I neither take, nor deserve, any credit for it whatsover, and only on that basis did I accept the invitation to present it as I saw fit.

I have opted to make only the smallest changes to his ideas as they seem to me to be the stepstones of the future. However he did specifically ask that any constructive criticisms or additional ideas be sought and wants it known that this is a foundation we can build on. He has added reasons, including some from Scripture, for these ideas which are included in the body of information presented below. Many of you will find them relevant. Those who don’t will still find the ideas themselves worth your time. I am awed by the effort put forth here which is why I have left it pretty much in tact with minimal edits. I think you will be as well.

With that said, and without further adieu, continue on and see what ideas suit you best.
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The INTENTION of this entire project was to garner HERE on Free Republic, an information central. Did you read ANYTHING except what you chose to argue over and over in this thread?
The rest was a plan of action OFF of Free Republicand the ideas expressed within that document were suggestions, not commands. You have no more right of free speech than he does. His concerns are valid. Islam is at war with us. Whether you accept that or not, it is the truth. Many people are concerned, and rightfully so, because islam is a politic all unto itself and it will never reconcile itself with the Judeo-Christian ethic this country was founded on. Rather, it will try to accomplish our demise by whatever means at their command. This is not good for any living thing, let alone for AMERICA. You are either American, or you are a muslim and never the twain shall meet. That is what they preach and that is their goal.
I had sent this to a previous poster privately because I did NOT want to turn this POLITICAL thread into a religious debate. I WANTED to concentrate on trying to organize the state boards and Tea Party Patriots and Freepers to do something worthwhile. It was a LOT of work and we tried to make it as narrow as we could for here, and as wide as we could for beyond here.
Instead, you have impeded almost any discussion outside this defense of a politic that seeks our destruction. So be it.
Here is what I wrote:

The religious freedom issue has really not been addressed to the full extent it should be. The bedrock of this country is that we are free to believe and practice whatever religion, (or non-religion,) we so choose without state mandates OR interference, so long as that religion does not infringe on the rights of others.
That is where it goes off the tracks. What actually qualifies as a religion? And where do you draw the line when it infringes on the rights of others? Does sheer numbers matter?
My personal opinion is no. Islam does not qualify and I will tell you why. In islam, NO ONE ELSE has rights. Their “religion” holds its adherants under penalty of death and any other religion must be wiped off the face of the earth or converted by the sword or whatever means necessary. It does not matter what YOU choose.
If you were born a muslim, and you want to leave, you are a target for death in the most horrible ways imaginable. Murder and rape is justified, and that includes the rape of young boys. Rapes of non-muslim women is justified. Murder of children, especially female children, in the name of a god is barbaric at best, but they call it honor.
When they decide to build a mosque, it must have minarets that are higher than any church anywhere in the area to show the superiority of islam. It must overshadow and dwarf all other houses of worship. In some areas, they consider it a right, (which has been granted,) to broadcast their prayers as loudly as they can whether the neighborhood is mixed, whether they are a minority or not. This is blatant infringement. If Christians or Jews or even Native Americans did this, they would be hauled into court and ordered to cease and desist.
They have declared outright war on this, the United States of America. They were throughout history, are, and will be at war with anyone who does not submit to their religion and they will never stop.
It is a HUGE part of their religious practice to befriend infidels and LIE to disarm and lull them into acceptance and “tolerance” until they have sufficient numbers to defeat the infidels. They are ORDERED to hate you and always hold this in their hearts even as they smile in your face.
If muslim children attending a PUBLIC school do not wish to be touched, why then does the school mandate that NO ONE in the school can be touched, muslim or not? No handshake. No hug. No holding hands. NO TOUCHING period, and the excuses for this are insane. The REASON is islam. Period. THAT is infringement.
When Britain passed a LAW, a government LAW, that no one could show the soles of their shoes in public, saying it was for cleanliness reasons, it was sharia and nothing less. Showing the soles of your shoes to a muslim is an insult of the highest order. But a LAW for ALL of Britain?
At what point do we say that medievil barbarism is NOT religion? That their rights do not trump ours?
Every time they go to court or go to a city council or a schoolboard to advance their rights by limiting ours, we have lost a battle. This is how they will win a war if we do nothing.
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Now. You want to argue the fine points of the religion of peace, go to it. Tell me why their rights trump mine. Go ahead. You have decided you will not go past this so jump in and explain to ME why I should grant a sworn enemy of this country rights it would NEVER grant to me or my children.


132 posted on 01/09/2010 12:30:29 PM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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