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The Replacements
New York Times ^ | January 2, 2010 | Carolyn Bucior

Posted on 01/03/2010 4:33:45 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: rarestia
" Essentially, I want to know if public schools are turning kids into Liberals,"
It is said that schools are nothing more than indoctrination centers for lib thinking...I found this to be true with my kids. I had to spend time with them everyday "deprogramming" them...my most lib minded kid is at worst a moderate, and the other 2 are strong conservatives...if you send your kids to public school, spend the time to deprogram...they then see what is being done to them in the school, and you get an eyes wide open conservative out of the mix...
41 posted on 01/03/2010 7:22:33 AM PST by joe fonebone
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To: married21
"Why do the British have a better teacher attendance record?"

Quite obviously their teachers are simply healthier, requiring fewer sick days.

Ergo....National Health Service is superior to US health care.

But despair not....Obamacare will surely cure this heinous disparity.

42 posted on 01/03/2010 9:30:30 AM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: sig226
its vision of teachers as an underpaid and overworked group of heros and uber liberals. Phooey.

I've been a teacher for 20 years, the last 15 in an inner city high school in the 4th largest school district in the nation. Got news: We ARE underpaid and overworked! We're just not all liberals.

Last year at my school, a teacher was jumped outside his classroom for the sin of confiscating an iPod from a student. That kid (female) promptly slapped the teacher on the spot. He had her taken via security to the office where district policy mandates an arrest. But no, our spineless uber liberal principal sent her onto outdoor suspension for ten days of free vacation. So that afternoon she came back with her quasi family of sorts. Crackhead mom, half sister by another father and half brother by yet another dad who happened to be a former golden gloves boxer. The teacher in question is a gentle math guy (sheep) and was tutoring kids for the state mandated test called the FCAT on his own time. After school he taught and reviewed for a couple of hours and was locking up when they struck. No security in the building & no cameras working. He was blindsided and never had a chance against the group. They broke his jaw in 3 places. He never returned to the school after his stay in the hospital. They got the initial kid and had warrants out for the rest but it's a dangerous job we do in the inner city and certainly worth far more than we're paid.

The next day (I had been out with the flu) when I got back to school all my kids promptly asked me the following:

Hey Mr._____! Are you now scared to come to work?

I laughed gently and replied thusly: "Look, son. I'm too young to die and too old to take an A$$ Whippin'...... So.....I'm just gonna KILL YA. Their eyes grew to the size of saucers and one of my football players laughed and said: I TOLD 'em you'd say that sir. You are da BOMB!

High praise that was in their language. When I was first recruited from a different inner city high school a few years before to teach Psychology and AP American Government, my students all called their buddies at the news school and said: This guy is an awesome teacher. He was social studies Teacher of the Year at our school. He's great. Ex Army, Ex- Cop, very cool. But don't mess with him cuz he'll KILL you dead. Ask to see his photo album.

They did too, first thing. I showed 'em my active duty and reserve photos and they pretty much decided not to test me. One guy did that year and I had to use some of my Aikido, but it was a halfhearted attempt and not a committed attack, so it was pretty easy. I knew I'd succeeded at the end of that year when I overheard a whispered conversation by my kids at the rear of the class (they all think we're blind and deaf at our "teacher desk").

The conversation was about teachers they'd like to punch, usually because they're tough both academically and discipline wise. I heard the names of all my friends come up and then MY name popped up and there was a shocked hush as my ears perked up. A fervent whisper: "You'd punch Mr. ______?" The reply was priceless: "I said I'd LIKE to, but I'd never do it cuz that psycho would kill me without a moment's hesitation. As in D.O.A.

Had I stumbled across the attack on the math teacher, I probably would have taken somebody out for good. No time to be sweet and gentle with that crew and I'd have done to them what they did to him: A blindside attack.

I tell the kids that I'm a conservative Republican and a Christian. I tell them my philosophy on education, too:

It's CRITICAL to distinguish between the LIBERALISM of the continuing historical revisionism in education to support liberal causes with reality. I DO this in this manner:

Every school year I give the following lecture.

Everything in life and history consists of three categories: Subjects, Issues and Agendas.

Everything is a subject.

Discussing ALL sides and permutations of a subject creates an ISSUE, which can be debated in honest and valid fashion.

Discussing ONE side of a subject creates an AGENDA and that is sheer manipulation to get you to act in a certain manner at a certain time ... usually this means a vote in the future. The public school system has the same message on a variety of subjects from Kindergarten thru senior high school and it never varies.

I'll prove it. Every student in this room is a senior.

#1 Have ANY of you in the past 12 years of school heard any educator, administrator or counselor say anything POSITIVE about firearms? Show your hands. Okay, none. Fact is, firearms are an Olympic sport and a part of the historical fabric of the nation. Regardless of what you think of the 2nd Amendment (and the USSC is about to rule on that for the first time in 70 years) there is a part of the Constitution that is dedicated to guns. Read the writings of the Founding Fathers and you may discover a whole bunch of absolute gun nuts! Or maybe not so "nuts."

#2 Have ANY of you in the past 12 years heard any educator, administrator or counselor say anything NEGATIVE about the United Nations? Show your hands. Okay, ZERO again. In fact we have whole events dedicated to the wonders of humanitarian love in the UN. The reality is that the UN is made up of a lot of nations that hold a lot of animosity to the USA. If they got the chance they'd happily eradicate us from the planet. IF.

This stuff is all on my FR Home page plus a reading list I recommend. Some of that list I have my kids read for extra credit, if they want. If they do a report, they get grades to help boost their gpa.

I take a lot of sick days. Most times I'm really sick at the start of the school year. When you interact with kids, they tend to be sick a lot and teachers catch it from the kids. THIS year I've already taken all my sick days legitimately and more since my wife was diagnosed with Breast Cancer and had a lumpectomy and now is halfway thru chemotherapy and other meds. Later there will be radiation and another year of less corrosive meds but that will still means trips to the doctors.

My friends at school including the principal and his staff have been wonderful. If I need to take my wife to the Doc and I have to leave school early, a teacher steps up and watches my kids on his or her planning period and the principal lets me go early without docking my pay. Still, at the start of chemo, it was bad and I had to take days off to be with her, help her ride out the nausea. I've gone thru all my paid leave and the year is just barely half done. I'm already into days without pay.

Paperwork? Over the top and buried in pure BS. You wouldn't believe the files, contacts, conferences & assessments and crap I have to accomplish on top of keeping papers graded (try grading 400 papers each and every week someday) and imaginations engaged with innovative techniques.

For years we had great insurance but this year they renegotiated and now we're getting screwed just like the rest of the nation. Thank God I have the VA, too.

My pay, really, is in the kids I do reach. The ones who stay in touch. I had one kid about ten years ago. He was one I'd have sworn would be dead in a year from gangs or drugs. He dropped from sight as soon as he graduated. I didn't hear about him for a couple of years until he strides into my classroom one sunny day. He was wearing his uniform. He was a Navy SEAL and he told me, that I'd done it. I'd been his motivation and his rock. Because I'd believed in him he'd believed in himself and he went all the way. He shook my hand and walked out again and I never saw or heard from him again. That was about 1999.

20 years in and for full retirement I need 35 years. I'm not going to make it. I'm just not. I'm on the edge of burn out now. I've already been through a clinical depression successfully treated by the VA. But depression is common in teachers. So, I write for therapy and now for profit. I have a real literary agent and some properties on the desks of some serious Hollywood players, including two series pilots. If those sell, I'll retire instantly. I could make my full retirement in a single season for just one but two? Plus the seven screenplays I have floating around? THAT would be "Da BOMB" as the kids say.

43 posted on 01/03/2010 11:51:42 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ElayneJ

I’m working on my Masters degree, and I went into the library research site and did some searches for ideological bias in post-secondary education. Surprisingly, I found a lot of interesting articles, but none of them specifically tackled my question. I’ll keep searching.

In the meantime, I appreciate your kind words, Elayne. I think there are a lot of changes that should be evinced in academe, esp. grade school. Our youngest children are brainwashed daily, but like you said, they’re smart enough to smell a rat.

As parents, our job is to infuse our beliefs into our children with the hope that they eventually “get” what we’re saying. You example of the NRA is funny, as I read an article in this months “America’s First Freedom,” the NRA journal of record, discusses its role in the first World War and how they changed the landscape of marksmanship. I very much appreciate the NRA, but I agree with you in that the NRA is demonized by the MSM, but we love them for being our protectors.


44 posted on 01/03/2010 12:16:56 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Travis McGee
Ping to my post #43.

Great seeing you last weekend. I hope you can make it down here again and spend some more time. Did you get what you needed?

45 posted on 01/03/2010 1:20:58 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: sig226
'Also, shouldn't one of the measures of a success be the teachers' ability to inspire the students to learn?'

Unfortunately, there are some students who will fight that thought. Of course, I have usually dealt with secondary. If you can get good teachers at the lower levels, it would be great. But too many of them major in reading/language arts, and do not like math or science. That feeling will come through to the kids.

46 posted on 01/03/2010 5:24:13 PM PST by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second - GO SARAHCUDA!!!!)
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To: ExSoldier

When teachers tell me that they’re underpaid and overworked, I ask them to seriously answer, who do you know who is overpaid and underworked? What do they do for a living? Please provide specifics so I can get that job.

Good luck with the scripts. I worte eight of them, never got a sale. Now I’m working on my first novel. I noticed an evolution in the book business over the last decade. There seem to be a lot more small, regional publishers and they’re more willing to take a chance on writers who do not have the typical intelligentsia background. There are a couple of published authors on FR.

My prediction is that the spread of internet television and movie downloads will fragment the market for feature films. Digital photography and projection, as well as internet distribution, will change the costs involved with producing and screening a feature production. Take away the need for licenses to broadcast television signals and the market is wide open. You need a computer system and an IP address to be a tv network. More competition for viewers means reduced revenue for each production, but it also means more productions. That means writers like you and I have an increased opportunity to get something produced and to build an audience.

The same thing is happening with recorded music and has been happening since the advent of digital recording and distribution. If you really wanted to do it, you could buy the equipment you’d need to mass produce compact discs and DVDs. Lots of bands use internet sales to distribute their own recordings on cd and itunes. You can make a nice living at it although you might not be a rock star.

Who knows, I might see you at the Oscars in a few years.

I’d like to tell the academy to take a flying leap because you’re a bunch of annoying liberals, and I already got mine, so there. :)


47 posted on 01/03/2010 7:22:09 PM PST by sig226 (Bring back Jimmy Carter!)
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To: ExSoldier

I sure hope you make the big score on a screenplay! It would be sweet irony if the school pilot paid off!


48 posted on 01/03/2010 7:22:59 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: sig226
who do you know who is overpaid and underworked?

I know at least 535 of them. Collectively they are known as the United States Congress, but that doesn't count the members of the Executive Branch who are equally overpaid and underworked. If you can manage to land the job of a Czar, then you're walking on "Easy Street!"

49 posted on 01/03/2010 7:48:55 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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