There is no provision in Texas law, at this time to remove male perpetrators. The only lawful choice was to remove the children.
catarac, you have no idea what you're talking about. If you think the Honorable Judge Walther is a joke, go into her Courtroom and tell her so. I see in every pro child abuse paper the word HOAX used over and over again. Well, it was pretty accurate for a hoax, now wasn't it? The phone may have been a Colorado number, but it's never been established that the actual phone was in Colorado. There were also pre-paid phones that were obtained with false identification from Tennessee. That is not all. Lots of false identification. Stay tuned.
You're killing me with your 4th amendment nonsense. All rescue calls to Texas Abuse lines have to be investigated. The warrants you believe will be invalidated were obtained after Texas LEOs, specifically Rangers, obtained warrants #2 and #3 where they observed crimes. Good luck with your fantasy, hoss. Warrant #1 was obtained when they refused entrance, which is mandatory under Texas law. (See above.)
Children weren't ripped from their mother's arms. The Court graciously allowed mother's to accompany them, even though they wouldn't give their names. It is a fact that females lied about their ages and even their children. Some children were found to be the offspring of women who were in Short Creek, some from Canada entering the United States illegally. I hope Greg Abbott brings charges of lying to a police officer for those behaviors, especially against the women. Accomplice or co-conspirators, also harboring a fugitive.
You can drive around ghetto's or Eldorado or anywhere else and screech about 17 year old’s being pregnant. Well, they may have made a mistake, but it was their choice to make. A fifteen year old in the FLDS who has been passed between two husbands at the whim of a false profit, had no choice. Oranges and apples. Also, probably no ghetto adolescent was left in labor for 72 hours with no medical care, because her profit didn't want to get busted raping children. Read the dictations of WSJ. It's all in there.
Historically, the average age of marriage in the United States was 23. All the way back to our Country's inception. Crack a freakin book. Your Grandmothers age of matrimony carries no weight. Whether she had a choice or not is the determining factor. These children do not have a choice. By their own statements to LEOs. “Prophet chooses who and when we will marry.”
Rebecca Mussar gave some very interesting testimony. In non compliance to the old FLDS “sex is for procreation, not recreation” line, she was asked by Rulon, a 90 year old man for oral sex.
When she would not comply, at the tender age of 15, the profit cried to his son Warren. He said he would make her comply. After she was ‘handled,’ she ran. As in RUNNOFT. I can only guess at your response to her testimony. She's a slut? Guess what, the jury decides, not you. 10 years with no probation and 33 years respectively so far. I guess they believed Ms. Mussar. The dictations backed her up.
If you think it's all sunshine and roses, no one can help you. A jury hears the facts, most of it DNA and birth dates. It's easy to figure backward. There is no provision in Texas law for marrying or purporting to marry a minor child. A minor child cannot consent to be assaulted. This is especially true when the man is already married to someone else. It's called Bigamy. Another crime.
Keep screeching “HOAX” and “Kangaroo Court” to your hearts delight. I don't think anyone with half a brain will take you even slightly serious after the evidence in the coming trials comes to light.
Texas will prosecute men who rape children. It is against the ‘laws and dignity of the state.’ There need not be a victim. Read the pleadings.
1) If you somehow want to associate the Texas Rangers with the rats in the House and Senate, what could one say? You ain’t from here. Technically, I guess, they are both ‘government,’ but Texans don’t see it that way. A DPS officer stopped a criminal in Texas. The criminal shot him. A hunter shot the criminal. To the hunter, Texas gave her highest award, and sealed his name forever. There was no hue and cry in Texas against ‘our government.’
2)I don’t see Koresh as bad and Weaver as innocent. Weaver sawed off a shotgun against the law. Koresh didn’t have Jerry Spence saying “Poor Idaho.” Spence is a really good attorney. Both shows were run by the Federal government. I had a DPS officer in Waco tell me that they could have walked in and gotten Koresh to come out. Blame Janet Reno. How many Texas Leo’s were in on the raid in Waco? Do you know? I do. None. But the Rangers cleaned it up.
3) As long as they comply with the law, no problem
4) Yes, we do. Carolyn Jessop wrote a book about her life within the FLDS, John krauthammer wrote “Banking on Heaven.” Flora Jessop wrote “Church of Lies.” “His Favorite Wife: Trapped in Polygamy” was written by Susan Ray Schmidt ... Irene Spenser wrote “Shattered Dreams.” There are many more. If you read them, and use critical thinking to assess what they’re each saying - they make a compelling argument. They were written over a fairly long span of time. If they existed on an island that would be one thing, but they seem to validate Fanny Algers original writings on the subject of polygamy, and how women are handled when they resist it.
As the Texas trials progress and evidence is entered, their statements are validated. Dates, times and persons jibe against the dictations. Simple as that. R. Mussar was a ‘scribe,’ or file clerk for Rulon. Her testimony was quite damning to the FLDS.
5) Why does the LSM not care Obama is a marxist? If they are your yardstick of reality, get a better ruler. I hear they make them now with laser beams.
6) I will not forget for a moment this was child rape, because that is exactly what it is.
7) Nice try, Wayne. You want to exploit the currant mistrust of a crew of Marxist elitist people in DC and transfer that to Texas DPS, Texas Rangers and County Sheriffs? Here’s the thing. The crew in DC, including Booby Hatch from Utah, plays piano with the pligys and says if they’re abusing children bring it to him, and he’ll be the first to denouce it.
Texas brought it to him. What’s he doing Wayne?
In Texas, County Sheriffs, DPS and Rangers work for a salary. They don’t make laws, they enforce them. They’re our friends and neighbors. Nothing to fear unless you’re breaking the law.
In my advanced psychology classes (under graduate)I learned in the abstract the mental defense mechanism of “rationalization”. I now have the classic example in your posting.
We need to go into East St Louis with tanks and gestapo to arrest men over 18 that impregnated girls 17 and under and give then 33 years!!WE can find thousand!!How about that? Did you know people can leave the YFZ compound at will?? Many have. I understand your guilt regarding this dark moment in American jurisprudence but try to live with the truth. Walther should have recused. She will be over-turned {again) but this time for her lack of knowledge of fundamental law of search and seizure and probable cause. She should be impeached as incompetent.