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To: WOSG
Well, I guess you could use Dole or his dad, but I'm not convinced he comes off better with his dad.  Dole was just worn out by campaigning IMO.  That was a no go.  His dad was perhaps the best all around prepared candidate to run of the office, but he just couldn't keep his globalist wish list in his pocket.  The guy was simply brilliant when it came to foreign affairs, if only he could have turned that into a Conservative plus.  Alas, he just didn't get it.  Neither did his son, but his son didn't have the qualifications, or IMO the smarts.  His dad was quite a capable guy, even with a fairly pronounced charisma deficit.

McCain is more of a pronounced in your face leftist.  It's fairly clear Bush was no McCain.

If Romney had been voted in, we'd already have nationalized health care, and many on our side would have been jumping up and down with glee about it.  Look at the apologists for Bush, that swore his medication addition to Medicare was the best idea ever.  I tried to shoot that idea down, and it was like talking to a brick wall.  Our Republicans in Congress would have voted for it.  You'd have seen it praised here.  I kid you not.

In Reagan's day there wasn't a guy out there other than him.  He came along and the public fell in love with him.  The problem with the people who are decent men, is that the RNC will have nothing to do with them.  I know folks don't think that counts for much, but it's crucial to funding and promotion.  When Bush had $70 million in his war chest by October 1999, I knew we were in serious trouble.  He just walked in with it.  It was his for the taking.

Hunter is a very good man.  He's solid as a rock.  The problem is, the rest of the party elites won't give him the time of day.  He's on the record about immigration.  That's all they need to know.  When the illegals here now are legalized, this nation is done, the future of the race that built this nation is done.  The future of Europe is done.  By 2050 there won't be more than a few nations on earth where White European descendants have self rule. By 2100 it's iffy if any will.  The U.S. will lose that between 2035 and 2045.  And if you think things are bad now, you have no idea how those who have something, will be trashed for where they got it.  And their detractors will be making it up as they go.  The White kids in schools then, will have a miserable existence.

I'm not sure that you are right that the Gore and Kerry standing was a real message.  I don't think the nation particularly cared for another Bush.  His immigration and spending issues cost him.  I think it was the precursor to McCain.  Bush just didn't have the draw, and McCain didn't either.  We can't blame our ideology for the loss, if our ideology wasn't championed.  It really wasn't if we're honest with ourselves.  Then as Bush governed, it became very clear that both parties were big spenders and an analog of each other.  Yes there are differences, but the core values weren't talk about, implemented, or anything.  When it came time for Bush to leave office, the public hadn't seen a Conservative in years, so why look for one to vote for.  McCain was as good as anyone, why not.  It didn't matter.  It hadn't mattered for years.

Let me revert for a moment here.  Bush was a no go for me from the start.  He didn't have to ability to develop a speech.  His words were incessantly garbled to the point it sounded like he had two marbles in his mouth for eight years.  He was forever stumbling over his delivery.  Letterman came up with Bush clips every stinking day.  Day after day after day after day, Bush looked like a total buffoon.  Nobody wanted to hear it.  Nobody accepted it.  And you know what, he just couldn't draw support.  It cost us at the election booth.  It cost us on policy.  He just didn't have what it took.  You know, you can work well in your own state.  Folks support you.  When you move out into the other 49 states, you have to have something going on.  All governors would like to be president.  It's very few that actually convert that desire to hold the office.  Bush just barely pulled it off.  Gore and Kerry were both consummate losers.  They still are.  Their laughing stocks to this day.  They have all the stature of a we blanket.

You're claiming that the electorate is to blame.  I will agree, but only if that electorate is fed solid Conservative principles about the size of government, our founding documents, sound fiscal policy, allowing families to keep more of their money, and a host of things that Conservatives believe in.  If our guy doesn't champion these things clearly and concisely for public consumption then it's just not reasoned to say our policies were turned down.  No they weren't.

“Today, we're barely hanging on to our nation. We either start moving back to the right, or we're going to be no better than the U.S.S.R.”

I hear ya on that... But let’s persevere. We have a country to save. We can never give up.


Well, we'll never turn back to the right if our leaders refuse to push Conservative principles.  We'll never turn back to the right if we back people who don't champion the ideals of the right, then implement them when they gain power.  We tried the Bush route.  We tried the McCain route.  It's time to nominate and elect a person who can actually articulate Conservatism, and implement it across the playing field.

No more RINOs. No more bumbling.  We need to bring our A game.

I appreciate your responses, and I'm sorry if this is too long winded, or rubs you the wrong way.

191 posted on 12/23/2009 5:46:56 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will become citizens.)
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To: DoughtyOne

nice pile of BS ...too bad its not reality


193 posted on 12/23/2009 5:56:25 PM PST by woofie
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To: DoughtyOne; WOSG; stephenjohnbanker; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; Impy; MaggieCarta; AuntB

This is not about who voted for who. Voters picked Bush over Kerry as the lesser of two evils, and then picked Obama over the soiled Republican brand as the lesser of two evils (I know that sounds silly now but it actually made sense.) But we dont get good choices, the debates are jokes, candidates never answer questions and rarely tell the truth. Both Obama and McCain promised us all goodies no pain, but Obama was selected to “put up”.

The Bush Truth watch is about the future. Something went very wrong. Opinions are all over the place on what he did wrong: from nothing, to everything. (I am closer to the latter.)

We cannot elect a Republican president who will keep a single purpose ‘to oppose Democrats’. It doesnt work that way. They will want to fix things. They will want to compromise to get things passed. So we need to know how they would have done things different.


198 posted on 12/23/2009 6:11:16 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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