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(May09) American General Keith Dayton praises Fatah Soldiers as 'Founders of Palestinian State'
The Jerusalem Gift Shop ^ | FRIDAY, 01 MAY 2009 03:24

Posted on 12/18/2009 8:23:31 PM PST by MindBender26

Palestinian Authority Special Forces were praised this week by an American general for becoming the founders of a new Arab country within Israel's current borders.

Addressing a battalion in Tulkarm that recently finished training in Jordan, US lt. General Keith Dayton said: "As I look at you, I couldn't be more proud of the fact that you stepped up to be the founders of a Palestinian state."

The United States plans to expand a program to bolster Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's security forces in the occupied West Bank, the general in charge of training and equipping them said Monday.

"We have plans to train at least three more battalions before this time next year," Lieutenant General Keith Dayton told Reuters. Each battalion has about 500 members.

"If it goes the way the administration has asked for, we will accelerate dramatically what we are doing here.

Over the past year, Israel had pardoned more than 250 Fatah terrorists implicated in the attacks in 2003 and 2004, and many of them were absorbed in PA security forces.

Now, Israeli intelligence sources say, dozens of these pardoned Fatah terrorists have returned to the fighting Israel.

Once trained by the U.S, the return of Fatah to terrorist activity against could place Israel on a collision course with Fatah’s American military advisers.

This could create a nightmare scenario of American military personnel caught in the crossfire between Israeli troops and Fatah terrorists.

The American consulate in Jerusalem has so far not commented on the fact that Fatah security forces, known as the al-Aqsa Brigades, are defined by American law as a terrorist entity and possibly are being inadvertently aided by the U.S. military.

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To: Islaminaction

Fatah is unmanageable if looked at as an institution but is valuable as a player in the game. They are a hedge against Hamas and Hez who are controlled by both Iran and Syria. The best of the bad situation is to have assets that can be managed by both NGO’s and western intelligence agencies. Having no assets on the ground is both dangerous to Israel and to the West in general. The only way to control what goes on in Palestine is to have control over the political situation. You have to have a strong political player like Fatah that will fight Hamas and Hez. This isn’t a nice game that is played by nice rules. Do you know what is going on in Palestine right now? How many foreign agents are being funneled in by Iran? The answer is we don’t have the access to border crossing and arms movements that we use to have. It was more manageable when Arafat was running the show (even though his numbers were mostly lies). Now we have less into than before and Egypt is not as reliable since they do not have the people in the correct places.


61 posted on 12/18/2009 10:21:54 PM PST by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: MindBender26
Obama’s March 6, 2007 interview with Nicholas D. Kristof of the New York Times, entitled, “Obama: Man of the World,” has never received the publicity it deserves. In it, Obama talks about being a “street kid” in Jakarta, about going to a Muslim elementary school: things he writes about in his autobiographical “Dreams From My Father.” In any case, in this interview Obama chants the opening lines of the Adhan, the Muslim “Call to Prayer” in Arabic, with what Kristof says is a first class accent and then, Obama goes on to volunteer that this “Call” is “One of the Prettiest Sounds On Earth At Sunset.” Here is what this “Call to Prayer” Says: “Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! I witness that there is no god but Allah I witness that there is no god but Allah I witness that Muhammad is his prophet… “ This opening section of the Adhan incorporates the Shahada, the Muslim confession of faith, and many Muslim scholars would say that if a person recites these lines, a person thereby becomes, for all time, a Muslim: surely something Obama knows. In fact, according to Muslims, it doesn’t matter if you recite the Shahada out of heartfelt conviction, or with a gun to your head, the effect is the same, the deed is done; remember those newsmen captured in Iraq and made to recite the Shahada as they knelt with guns to their heads (Hot Air » Blog Archive » Centanni, Wiig freed (Update: Conversion video added) (Update: A Gilad Shalit connection?))? For the Muslim world this recitation—which might as well be, and is, the deepest code for most of us “unbelievers” in the West--may be enough to tell them exactly who and what Obama is and where he stands. Obama is not supposed to know this stuff, Obama, according to his defenders, is not supposed to have gone to any Muslim school, much less to have received sufficient training to recite the Adhan in a perfect Arabic accent and, the ease and facility with which Obama chanted the Adhan brings up many questions about just how much he does know about Islam and how thoroughly and for how long he was trained as a Muslim. His fondness for the “Call,” heard, it would seem, for just a few years when he was 8 or 9, brings up even more questions.
62 posted on 12/18/2009 10:22:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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To: Islaminaction

I haven’t been keeping up to date, but I thought Petraeus looked pretty good. Incidentally, for the people bashing Dayton’s lack of combat experience, Petraeus saw his first in 2003 after being commissioned in 1974.


63 posted on 12/18/2009 10:29:13 PM PST by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: MindBender26

He has to please his few favored constituents: the free traitors in chumming it up with their trading partners, avoiding wars in order to keep freight fuel prices down, and eventually to destroy our USA for them. It’s the political way of our superiors and has been increasingly so for over three decades.


64 posted on 12/18/2009 10:29:23 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

In the end, if Islam is not addressed in the West nothing happening overseas will matter. As the political aspect of Islam is marching across the West. Fighting them over there and allowing to setup shop here is not the answer. The fight is here now.


65 posted on 12/18/2009 10:40:24 PM PST by Islaminaction
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To: MindBender26

unfreakin real- what the hell has become of htis nation?


66 posted on 12/18/2009 11:05:01 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: MindBender26

This didn’t just start this year either did it. That’s what bothers me.


67 posted on 12/18/2009 11:06:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp; PaleoBob
PaleoBob wrote:
"The far right has an element of anti-semitists too

my_pointy_head_is_sharp replied:
You're full of it!!!
"

That "right wing" stuff is for Europeans and the organized crime homos. Nazis, commies--same thing. Some of us are American conservatives.


68 posted on 12/18/2009 11:17:04 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: cmsgop; MindBender26
"To quote “ACE” “How Long Has This Been Goin On” ?"


Quite a while. There's really only one political party here: the politically correct, corporate-government-academic free traitor party. And the trash from the main stream media is sponsored by the same herd of favored constituents. ...mobsters, all. Some of the following pages have been removed or moved, but the quotes are true (copied and pasted when first posted).

Bush on Israel: Heartburn for All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844641/posts

President Abbas asks Congress help to release PNA funds withheld by Israel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844647/posts

Bush releases money to Abbas
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844646/posts

Rice: Better to have Hamas in power than in streets
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1733397/posts

Rice: Palestinians deserve to live free of ‘occupation’[at an event of pro-Palestinian group]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1717847/posts

US Supplies Fatah With Arms, Rice Decries “Occupation”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718348/posts

Rice: Israel Must Withdraw from More than Gaza and Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333354/posts

Disciples of Christ to Israel: Drop dead
http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-religion/1458942/posts

U.S. Presbyterians target five firms with Israel links
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458765/posts

The Church Stares Into the Abyss (The dhimmitude of the Church of England)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1435084/posts

(Anti-Semitic) Anglican group urges Israel sanctions
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430566/posts

Anglicans Call for Sanction on Investment in Israel to Uphold Justice
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430772/posts

THE VATICAN AND THE STANDOFF AT THE CHURCH OF THE NATIVITY
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp515.htm

Two United Methodist gatherings urge selective divestment from Israel (official anti-Israel United Methodist Website)
http://www.umc.org/site/c.gjJTJbMUIuE/b.886089/k.A105/Two_United_Methodist_gatherings_urge_selective_divestment_from_Israel.htm

world council of churches (WCC)
church & ecumenical relations
http://www.wcc-coe.org/wcc/what/ecumenical/index-e.html
"Among those churches which are not members of the WCC, the most notable is the Roman Catholic Church (RCC). Since 1965 a Joint Working Group (JWG), co-sponsored by the WCC and the RCC, has met regularly to discuss issues of common interest and promote cooperation. The group meets annually. One of the church and ecumenical relations staff members serves as co-secretary for the JWG and helps to coordinate contact between the Council and the dicasteries of the Vatican through the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity. [And] . . . Though the Roman Catholic Church is not a member of the WCC, it is a full member of the Faith & Order Commission. The RCC also serves the team on Mission & Evangelism in a consultative capacity."

President Bush Calls for New Palestinian Leadership
The Rose Garden
June 24, 2002
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020624-3.html
"The United States, the international donor community and the World Bank stand ready to work with Palestinians on a major project of economic reform and development. The United States, the EU, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund are willing to oversee reforms in Palestinian finances, encouraging transparency and independent auditing."

Quartet Joint Statement
Summary
July 16, 2002: Text of a joint statement issued by the "Quartet" (United Nations, Russian Federation, the United States and the European Union) following their meeting in New York
[Document behind the link.]
http://europa-eu-un.org/articles/sk/article_1489_sk.htm
"The new international Task Force on Reform, which is comprised of representatives of the U.S., EU, UN Secretary General, Russia, Japan, Norway, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, and which works under the auspices of the Quartet, will strive to develop and implement a comprehensive action plan for reform."

...little more background material:

Rice: Israel Must Withdraw from More than Gaza and Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333354/posts
February 1, 2005

Bush and Sharon disagree over Israel's future
Wednesday June 27, 2001
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,513410,00.html

Sharon presses Putin to drop UN resolution on road map
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1013908/posts
4 November 2003

Commencement Address at Boston College (Secretary Condoleezza Rice, Boston, Massachusetts, May 22, 2006. US Department of State)

Excerpts:

As a student of a Catholic high school, the Sisters of Loretta taught me, I am pleased to be at an institution of higher education with such strong and celebrated Catholic and Jesuit traditions . . . You see, I got my Master's Degree at Notre Dame. (Boos.) I acquired a passion for the fighting Irish . . . and my family has been college educated and Presbyterian ever since. (Laughter and applause.) . . . I wandered into a course on international politics taught by a Czech refugee who specialized in Soviet studies, a man who had a daughter by the name of Madeleine Albright. With that one class, I was hooked. I discovered that my passion was Russia and all things Russian.


69 posted on 12/18/2009 11:37:14 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: pissant
See comment #69. It's not a happy, cheerleader kind of thing, but it presents the truth.

And what can we do? We can stop buying anything that we don't need and become more self-sufficient each month. ...and be nonpolitical. That is...those of us who have the courage and toughness.


70 posted on 12/18/2009 11:40:44 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: DoughtyOne
"This didn’t just start this year either did it. That’s what bothers me."

That's right, as only partially evidenced in comment #69.


71 posted on 12/18/2009 11:44:59 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: familyop

FamilyOp, can’t tell you how much that crap bothers me.

You touch on some very important issues there, and that’s a big reason why I am not a big fan of Bush or Rice.

The preposterous premise that Israel is the reason there is no Palestinian nation, is a hoax. The Palestinians have had a number of chances to become a nation if only they wanted that more than to destroy Israel.

The Palestinians haven’t been willing to give up one thing for peace.


72 posted on 12/19/2009 12:15:47 AM PST by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: familyop
Commencement Address at Boston College (Secretary Condoleezza Rice, Boston, Massachusetts, May 22, 2006. US Department of State) Excerpts: As a student of a Catholic high school, the Sisters of Loretta taught me, I am pleased to be at an institution of higher education with such strong and celebrated Catholic and Jesuit traditions . . . You see, I got my Master's Degree at Notre Dame. (Boos.) I acquired a passion for the fighting Irish . . . and my family has been college educated and Presbyterian ever since. (Laughter and applause.) . . . I wandered into a course on international politics taught by a Czech refugee who specialized in Soviet studies, a man who had a daughter by the name of Madeleine Albright. With that one class, I was hooked. I discovered that my passion was Russia and all things Russian.

I read your post with interest, but was wondering what you're saying with this quote.

73 posted on 12/19/2009 3:05:28 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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To: MindBender26
Under Pres_ _ent Obama, America has chosen allah over G d.

'American training will be utilized to kill Jews'
”NORTHERN WEST BANK –security forces who recently received training
at U.S.-run bases as part of a stated effort to reform the PA's militias
“All the trainings we received from Dayton and company will not affect our loyalty to
our people and the resistance," said the former Brigades leader.
The others present concurred.
The gunman was referring to Keith Dayton, the U.S. security coordinator to the
Palestinian territories who has been overseeing the training of Palestinian militias.
Since the late 1990s, the U.S. has run training bases for PA militias. The U.S. also has
provided hundreds of millions of dollars in financial aid and weapons to build up the PA militias.
"… What we received from Dayton, we will use when the day comes for a confrontation."
"I do not think that the operations of the Palestinian resistance would have been so
successful and would have killed more than 1,000 Israelis since 2000 and defeated the
Israelis in Gaza without these [American] trainings," said Yousuf.

Yousuf received U.S. training in Jericho in 1999 as a member of the Preventative
Security Services. He is a Brigades chief in Ramallah, where he is accused of
participating in anti-Israel terrorism, including recent shootings, attacks against Israeli
forces operating in the city and a shooting attack in northern Samaria in December 2000
that killed Benyamin Kahane, leader of the ultranationalist Kahane Chai organization.
… Yousuf said his American training sessions were instrumental in killing Jews:
"All the methods and techniques that we studied in these trainings, we applied them against the Israelis," he said.
"We sniped at Israeli settlers and soldiers. We broke into settlements and Israeli army
bases and posts. We collected information on the movements of soldiers and settlers. We
collected information about the best timing to infiltrate our bombers inside Israel. We
used weapons and we produced explosives, and of course the trainings we received from
the Americans and the Europeans were a great help to the resistance."

"I myself received American trainings in Jericho. Together with my Preventative
comrades, I received trainings in intelligence methods and military trainings," he said. "In
the intelligence part, we learned collection of information regarding suspected persons,
how to follow suspected guys, how to infiltrate organizations and penetrate cells of
groups that we were working on and how to prevent attacks and to steal in places.

"On the military level, we received trainings on the use of weapons, all kind of weapons
and explosives," Yousuf said. "We received sniping trainings, work of special units
especially as part of what they call the fight against terror. We learned how to put siege,
how to break into places where our enemies closed themselves in, how to oppress protest
movements, demonstrations and other activities of opposition.
"I'm just telling you the truth," he said. "We applied against Israel all that we learned
from the Americans."


Obama's Official Web Site Equates Israel to Nazi Germany
Organizing for America Web site: "The majority of the Israeli policies are the exact
copies of the Nazi policies"
Barack Obama's official Web site, over which Barack Obama's organization exercises
editorial control, carries an entry that equates Israelis to Nazis and their treatment of
Palestinians to the Holocaust. Emily and her fellow moderators at Obama for America
apparently did not consider an entry that compares Israeli Jews to Nazis as "disrespectful
to our other users and detract from a welcoming community where all people can engage
in positive discourse." Here is the material that Obama for America approved for posting."


“Barack Obama’s Anti-Semitic Website
The site was and is closely policed. The site moderators remove material that they
consider to be “disrespectful to our other users” and to “detract from a welcoming
community where all people can engage in positive discourse.” What they find
disrespectful can be interesting: once during the campaign a conservative blogger, Bill
Levinson, posted a blog on Obama’s website consisting entirely of a series of quotations
from Obama’s own book, Dreams of my Father. Obama’s team did not approve of their
standard-bearer’s words, and so Levinson’s blog and account were deleted from the
Obama site in just under 36 hours. That’s right, Barack Obama’s website banned
Obama’s own words. But the most disgusting anti-semitic ravings remained on the site,
along with blogs advocating anarchy and the overthrow of the United States Congress."


“Obama using 'blood libel' report to pressure Jewish state
TEL AVIV – Senior Palestinian Authority officials told WND the Obama administration
offered their group guarantees that the U.S. would pressure Israel over a Palestinian state
in exchange for the PA's withdrawal of support for immediate U.N. action over an
investigation claiming Israel committed war crimes.

The PA officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, told WND the guarantees include
pressing Israel to agree to a two-year timetable to negotiate a Palestinian state set along
the pre-1967 lines – meaning a state in the Gaza Strip, West Bank and eastern sections of
Jerusalem.

The officials said the Obama administration hopes to set the timetable publicly before
March. They said Obama's Mideast envoy, George Mitchell, presented the timetable to
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in meetings here the past few days.

The PA officials said Mitchell specifically told the Palestinians the Obama administration
will push for a state including much of eastern Jerusalem.
"Mitchell told us not to be worried about what happened in Jabel Mukabar. It was just a
ceremony and won't create any facts on the ground," one senior PA official told WND.”


“At the UN, the Obama administration backs limits on free speech.
At the UN, the Obama administration backs limits on free speech.
This article, by Anne Bayefsky, originally appeared in The Weekly Standard.
The Obama administration has marked its first foray into the UN human rights
establishment by backing calls for limits on freedom of expression. The newly-minted American policy was rolled out at the latest session of the UN Human Rights
Council, which ended in Geneva on Friday. American diplomats were there for the first time as full Council members and intent on making friends.
President Obama chose to join the Council despite the fact that the Organization of the
Islamic Conference holds the balance of power and human rights abusers are among its
lead actors, including China, Cuba, and Saudi Arabia. Islamic states quickly interpreted
the president's penchant for "engagement" as meaning fundamental rights were now up
for grabs. Few would have predicted, however, that the shift would begin with America's
most treasured freedom."

74 posted on 12/19/2009 4:11:50 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: nutmeg

Whoa...

This is disturbing on so many levels. If I read this correctly- this was started under Condi Rice and GWB.


75 posted on 12/19/2009 4:46:17 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: MindBender26
Seems to me your source is without agenda. lol
76 posted on 12/19/2009 5:01:00 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: unkus
unkus.
I took some liberties with your comment and added a bit to flesh out the whole story - hope you don't mind! :)

March 5, 2013
Olypen PifWire

Today the US Navy and US Air Force began Standing Down. All weapons systems remaining after the Defense Department fire sale will be transferred to UN control and command. The US Army and Marine Corps will be transferred to a new Continental United States Internal Security Command to handle any potential domestic unrest. In addition, all soldiers who refuse to serve will be courts-martialed.

March 10, 2013
Olypen PifWire

After the transfer to the UN, most personnel among the enlisted and officer corps of the respective services resigned. While the final count is not in, it appears that a total of 80,000 personnel remained loyal to the Obama Administration and will be going on active duty with the UN and Continental United States Internal Security Command. These personnel will form the corp of their respective commands. Recruiting will begin immediately in the blighted inner cities and on college campuses.

April 1, 2013
Olypen PifWire

Today the DOD announced the final tallies from the fire sale. As expected China was the highest bidder, buying all F-22 aircraft, all carriers, all Aegis Class destroyers, and the entire nuclear submarine fleet, and all associated support systems.

Other major components were purchased by Saudi Arabia and Iran, which nations - according to an unnamed source within the DOD - were deadlocked for days in a bidding war over various nuclear missile delivery systems and associated warheads. Apparently a compromise was reached, as both nations were happy with their acquisitions, the spokesman said.

DOD also announced that all unmanned air surveillance craft and weapons were transfered to the Continental United States Internal Security Command lead by Major General Keith W. Dayton.

In related news of the sale, spokesman for the Obama Administration announced that the proceeds will be placed in a special fund available for Congressional use as they see fit. The spokesman added he was still thrilled by the landslide Democrat results in the 2010 elections - giving special credits to ACORN and its many allied groups for putting out such tremendous efforts in getting out the vote. The various court challenges by the minority Republican party have largely been defeated he said.

June 7, 2013
Olypen PifWire

The Obama Administration annnouced late last night that the reports which have surfaced on discreited news sources about 3 AM raids on citizens believed to possess firearms are just rumors and should be given the due they so greatly deserve.

June 7, 2013
Olypen PifWire

Help Wanted
Construction workers of all types needed, must be able to pass FBI and CUSIC Federal security review, pay commensurate with performance, warm climate, be willing to relocate to southwestern US.

77 posted on 12/19/2009 5:37:21 AM PST by PIF
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To: PIF

June 8, 2013
Olypen PifWire

The editors apollogize for the following error now corrected - CUSIC was supposed to read CUSISC:
Construction workers of all types needed, must be able to pass FBI and CUSISC Federal security review, pay commensurate with performance, warm climate, be willing to relocate to southwestern US.


78 posted on 12/19/2009 5:42:39 AM PST by PIF
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To: MindBender26

I do believe a program simular if not the same was begun under Bill Clinton - this may just be a continuation, not a new program.


79 posted on 12/19/2009 5:46:44 AM PST by PIF
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To: MindBender26
quoting Rep. Mark Steven Kirk (R-Ill.) as telling Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton at a House hearing last week that it was akin to agreeing to support a government that "only has a few Nazis in it."

Good Lord, what have the liberals done to this country and now to Israel voting in Obama?!?

80 posted on 12/19/2009 6:41:48 AM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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