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Victor Davis Hanson: Has War Really Changed? War always involves “a military solution.”
National Review Online ^ | December 10, 2009 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 12/10/2009 12:58:12 PM PST by neverdem








Has War Really Changed?
War always involves “a military solution.”

By Victor Davis Hanson

Has war been reinvented in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Sometimes it seems so, with the confusion that has come with the instant communication offered by the Internet, YouTube, and satellite television — along with the new arts of precision destruction via high-tech weapons like drones and GPS-guided weapons.

In Afghanistan and Iraq, soldiers don’t quite disappear into distant theaters abroad. Instead, they can e-mail or call their spouses from halfway across the world — often minutes before and after battle.

A phony Internet rumor, like the supposed flushing of a Koran at Guantanamo Bay, can incite thousands in mere minutes.

As those in the West become ever more affluent and leisured, it is harder for us to ask our children to risk the good life in often distant, controversial wars. Who wants to leave our comfy suburbs to fight in godforsaken places like the Hindu Kush or Fallujah — against those for whom violence and poverty are accustomed experiences?

The West still has the technological edge in warfare. But thanks to globalization, the Internet, and billions of petrodollars, terrorists can get their hands on weapons (or the instructions on how to build them) that often prove as lethal as those used by American or NATO troops.

That Osama bin Laden did not have anything like the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Nimitz did not prevent him from taking down the World Trade Center.

Nonetheless, many of the old rules still apply amid the modern fog of war. Human nature, after all, does not change. And since the beginning of civilization the point of war has always been for one side through the use of force to make the other accept its political will.

We should remember that and get back to basics in Afghanistan. Our leaders must remind us that war always offers only two choices — bad and worse.

We certainly could leave Afghanistan. That would allow the Taliban to return to power and host more radical Islamic terrorists.

Or we can persist in a dirty business of trying to stabilize a consensual government that will fight terrorism. Both are dangerous enterprises: Withdrawal has long-term risks; staying may become hellish in the short-term.

We should also carefully define the enemy. Who exactly are we ultimately fighting in Afghanistan? Afghans? Arabs? Radical Muslims? Terrorists? Most of the public is still unsure after eight years of war.

There are certainly plenty of horrific thugs like those in the Taliban throughout the world whom we often ignore. But what made radical Afghans of vital interest to the United States was their willingness to help radical Arab Muslims kill Americans on a wide scale.

What unites al-Qaeda and the Taliban is a shared murderous radical Islamic ideology, one antithetical to our own. Americans should hear that without politically correct euphemisms.


The president must explain what victory in Afghanistan means. Are we there until we destroy the viability of the Taliban and their terrorist allies — by fostering an elected government that will eventually secure the country? If so, we need to hear exactly that.

If not, the president can instead talk of deadlines, troop withdrawals, cruise-missile attacks, and Predator-drone bombings — all efforts to now and then bother, but not end, the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

War typically concludes when one side cannot fulfill its political objectives. Sometimes both sides quit, as in the Korean War. But usually, as in Vietnam or the Balkans, violence ceases when one side is tired of losing more than it hopes to gain — and admits defeat.

If our leaders today could consult great generals like the Roman Scipio Africanus or William Tecumseh Sherman — who won what were once near-hopeless wars — they might receive the following advice:

Prepare the public to shoulder human and financial costs.

Be candid about why enduring the horrors of war now is preferable to risking even costlier violence later.

Talk always of winning, never leaving or quitting a war.

Have no apologies for crushing the enemy. The quicker the enemy loses, the fewer get killed on both sides.

Inform the public of the other side’s losses just as you do your own.

And be magnanimous to the defeated — after the war, not during the fighting.

Nation building may be fine and even necessary. But war always involves “a military solution.” How can there be economic prosperity or political stability if civilians are afraid of getting killed by enemy terrorists?

President Obama talked of many things in his recent Afghanistan speech. But he never once mentioned the words “victory
and win. All that may seem like an out-of-date idea to postmodern Americans. But it is still a very real one to the premodern Taliban, who seem to understand the ageless nature of war far better than we do.


Victor Davis Hanson is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and a recipient of the 2007 National Humanities Medal. © 2009 Tribune Media Services, Inc.



TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: vdh; victordavishanson; wot

1 posted on 12/10/2009 12:58:14 PM PST by neverdem
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To: Tolik

Nailed it!


2 posted on 12/10/2009 12:59:49 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

It’s been said before, “Sometimes War is the answer. It depends on the question.”


3 posted on 12/10/2009 1:02:23 PM PST by erman
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To: neverdem
War always involves “a military solution.”

I don't really mean to disagree with Professor Hanson, but by definition was IS a military solution.

4 posted on 12/10/2009 1:03:43 PM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: neverdem
If our leaders today could consult great generals like the Roman Scipio Africanus ... — they might receive the following advice: ...

And be magnanimous to the defeated — after the war, not during the fighting.

The Roman treatment of defeated Carthage is not a very good example of magnanimity in victory.

To be fair, this wasn't Scipio's fault.

5 posted on 12/10/2009 1:06:25 PM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: The_Victor

was = war

“...war IS a military solution.”


6 posted on 12/10/2009 1:10:12 PM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: neverdem

The “solution” is unconditional surrender.


7 posted on 12/10/2009 1:11:14 PM PST by dancusa (Political Correctness is a firewall to the truth.)
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To: neverdem
I'm glad he cited William T. Sherman, who also told us...

"Every attempt to make war easy and safe will result in humiliation and disaster."


8 posted on 12/10/2009 1:11:36 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: The_Victor
by definition war IS a military solution.

If you win. Although that generally creates a whole new batch of problems itself.

9 posted on 12/10/2009 1:11:37 PM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: neverdem
"a consensual government that will fight terrorism"

Um, what if it is one or the other?

Every possible consensual government in Afghanistan would want the US and other westerners out, and for the government to be pro-Islam.

The PC pretense that terrorism is only endorsed by tiny tyrannical minorities has some truth in Iraq or Pakistan (where, actually, terrorists are unpopular because they won't stick to killing westerners or Jews, rather than as such). But there is little sign of that in Afghanistan.

Is our bottom line that they Afghan people get whatever they want, even if it happens to be "us dead", or is our bottom line that we will defeat terrorists, regardless of how popular they are? If the second, then we ought to be more realistic about governments in Afghanistan. That they we consenual would be nice, if readily achievable along with our other objectives. But that they refrain from attacking us and do attack terrorists, in actually our bottom line.

We should be entirely clear - that means large portions of the Afghan population and probably clear majorities of it, will always view the governments we can live with as traitors and lackies of the west.

Anyone think that Obama has the stones to see a war like that through to the end? I sure don't. And if not, then why exactly are we asking young Americans to get killed over there?

10 posted on 12/10/2009 1:18:44 PM PST by JasonC
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To: neverdem

The Brits won several wars in Afghanistan though nothing much changed after each victory.


11 posted on 12/10/2009 1:19:53 PM PST by Eternal_Bear (`)
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To: neverdem

Is there a military solution?

Obviously the enemy thinks so, otherwise they would surrender.


12 posted on 12/10/2009 1:27:53 PM PST by marron
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To: JasonC
We should be entirely clear - that means large portions of the Afghan population and probably clear majorities of it, will always view the governments we can live with as traitors and lackies of the west.

The Taliban are not popular, and it's largely confined to the Pushtuns/Pashtu, a minorty, albeit the largest minority.

13 posted on 12/10/2009 2:20:37 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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14 posted on 12/11/2009 10:33:19 AM PST by Tolik
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To: neverdem
I'm starting to get concerned that McChrystal is overpromising on what can be achieved over the next 18 months.

He said he needed 40,000 troops, yet he's getting only 30,000. I remember what it was like in Germany during the Carter years. My units really struggled at 80% of authorized strength.

When you're at 80%, you're actually at a bit more than 60%. Why? There's "sick call", family emergencies, and other duties that detract from training. Even though the units in Afghanistan will be more focused on the mission, the objectives will have to be scaled back to meet the reality on the ground.

As a platoon leader, my best training occurred during Tac Evals, particularly those from the Air Force (my ADA battalion's mission was air base defense). For 3-4 days, Battalion HQ had to leave us alone...we belonged to the Wing Commander. Evaluators would pay us a visit once during the time, and we'd put on a dog and pony show for about an hour. Then it was back to work.

I was able to focus on each squad for hours at a time, drilling them on how they'd be evaluated by Army evaluators. Other platoons used the time as a glorified camping trip, and it showed during future evaluations.

15 posted on 12/11/2009 10:55:04 AM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: neverdem
Agreed. But anti-western sentiment is popular, and Islam is even more popular. Most of those who want to drive foreigners out of the country and live according to Islam, just *also* want to rule their own corner of the country themselves, in every case - not have some turbaned goon funded from Pakistan or worse, ordering them around and shooting people for not washing their hands "correctly" or holding hands in public.
16 posted on 12/11/2009 11:08:49 AM PST by JasonC
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To: Joe 6-pack
Separated at birth?

Cheers!

17 posted on 12/11/2009 7:56:52 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Two American ass-kickers.


18 posted on 12/11/2009 8:30:28 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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