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The 10 Countries Most Likely To Default
Business Insider ^ | 12/6/2009 | Kamelia Angelova

Posted on 12/08/2009 11:51:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Dubai's economic meltdown was a warning sign of further sovereign default troubles for other governments.

CMA, a credit information specialist, tracks the world’s most volatile sovereign debt issuers according to percentage changes in their 5 year Credit Default Swaps.

On top of their list for the greatest sovereign risks are countries from the former Russian Eastern Bloc, conflict-torn nations, and an oil-rich dictatorship.

#1 Venezuela

Cumulative Probability of Default: 60%

WSJ: "one week ago, the government was forced to begin shutting down seven small banks that together represent up to 12% of banking system deposits, after the public began to get wind of some of the banks allegedly using depositors' funds for corrupt ends.

Those takeovers alone would have frayed nerves in financial markets. But Chavez piled on by saying he would nationalize the entire banking system if needed. The comments, last Wednesday, sent Venezuela's bolivar currency and sovereign bond prices tumbling."

#2 Ukraine

Cumulative Probability of Default: 55%

Bloomberg: "Ukraine will keep its B2 credit rating, with a negative outlook, the ratings company said in a statement released late yesterday, after Ukrzaliznytsya defaulted on a principal payment on a Barclays Capital-led syndicated loan on Nov. 20...

The B2 rating reflects “weak macroeconomic fundamentals, a banking system that remains under strain, and distinctly poor coordination between fiscal and monetary policies,” Moody’s said. “While some of these problems may well reflect political in-fighting in the run-up to the presidential election, the fiscal loosening inherent in recent legislation -- which may raise the budget deficit by up to 7 percent of gross domestic product in 2010 -- is a serious concern. Hence, the negative outlook on the B2 sovereign rating remains in place.”

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: countries; debt; default; doomandgloom
GUESS WHICH ONE IS #9 ? You'll be surprised... It IS NOT a COUNTRY.

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE REST....

1 posted on 12/08/2009 11:51:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I am not really surprised...lol. Hopefully that does not happen though. Poor Ukraine...they are really an ally to us. We have been doing exercises with them over the years. Isn’t Pakistan going broke a good thing??? Perhaps I am misinformed, but don’t they provide alot of terror money to the taliban and other undesireables?


2 posted on 12/08/2009 11:58:18 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: SeekAndFind
The hint was all I needed to guess correctly. I thought Ireland would have been on the list though.
3 posted on 12/08/2009 11:58:23 AM PST by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Venezuela? With an economic genius like Chavez at the helm? Well, knock me over with a feather.

He'll be prodding Colombia into a shooting war before he's done.

4 posted on 12/08/2009 11:58:28 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll bet the U.S. would have shown up on a Top 20 list.


5 posted on 12/08/2009 11:59:57 AM PST by DrC
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I’ll bet the U.S. would have shown up on a Top 20 list.

Read on and look at #9 on the list. It is NOT a country but its economy is bigger than most countries. Who woulda thunk that what used to be an economic growth engine would be in such dire straights ?
6 posted on 12/08/2009 12:02:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: napscoordinator
Yeah! Billions of our money in cash or credits to help us win the WOT.
What a joke! They must be enjoying many laughs over our stupidity and naivete.
7 posted on 12/08/2009 12:09:57 PM PST by free from tyranny
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To: SeekAndFind
Kalifornistan. Its been bankrupt for years now.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

8 posted on 12/08/2009 12:15:23 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Kalifornistan. Its been bankrupt for years now.

BINGO ! California, to its shame is now ranked among the countries most likely to DEFAULT.

Here's the description :

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Cumulative Probability of Default: 18 %

The Sacramento Bee: "Just how deeply in debt are our state and local governments?

The answer: No one knows for certain, since debt is scattered through myriad agencies in many forms, but well over a half-trillion dollars is a fair estimate."

Just days before Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and legislators finalized a water package, including an $11.1 billion bond issue, state Treasurer Bill Lockyer warned them not to do it.

California is already deeply in debt, Lockyer warned, has huge budget deficits and can't afford another big bond issue.

"The days of blithely heaping more and more debt burden on the general fund are over – at least they should be," Lockyer said.

The earmark-laden bond issue, the package's single most controversial element, raises an interesting question: Just how deeply in debt are our state and local governments?

The answer: No one knows for certain, since debt is scattered through myriad agencies in many forms, but well over a half-trillion dollars is a fair estimate.

Lockyer's warning pertained to the state's "general obligation debt," which currently stands at $59 billion, and there are an additional $50-plus billion in general obligation bonds that have not yet been sold. The biggest chunks of debt, however, are the unfunded obligations for pensions and health care of retired public employees.

The latest annual pension report from the state controller covers 2006, when the unfunded liability was $64 billion. But since then, state and local pension funds have lost at least $150 billion on investments, so a reasonable estimate of today's unfunded liability is $200-plus billion. A state commission, meanwhile, says the state-local liability for retiree health care is about $100 billion.

No one keeps complete data on local government general obligation debt, but it appears to be roughly the same as the state's, perhaps $50 billion, plus several billion dollars in debt incurred by local redevelopment agencies.

There are tens of billions in specialized state debt, such as veteran home loan bonds, "securitization" of tobacco lawsuit proceeds, and budget deficit bonds.

The interest that must be paid on all that state and local debt is probably an additional $100 billion, so we're already talking about well over $500 billion.

Then there are the off-the-books debts incurred to paper over years of state budget deficits, such as speeding up tax collections that will have to be refunded later, postponing periodic payments to schools, making promises to schools about levels of future financing, borrowing money from special funds and taking local government funds that must be repaid later.

The state's unemployment insurance fund, meanwhile, is about $7 billion in the red, and that deficit is expected to more than double in the next year and quadruple by the end of 2011. The state has been borrowing from the federal government, but sooner or later it will have to repay the feds, probably by taxing employers.

Conservatively, then, California is probably more than $600 billion in debt. Perhaps we shouldn't sweat another $11.1 billion. Or perhaps it will be the straw that breaks our back.
9 posted on 12/08/2009 1:12:44 PM PST by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hmm, I wonder where Japan would rank.


10 posted on 12/08/2009 1:20:38 PM PST by BenKenobi
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To: BenKenobi

if you looked at the list, you will notice that (other than California), they are mostly made up of countries within the former Soviet Union ( e.g. Lithuania, Ukraine, Latvia ) and 3rd world countries with despots or corrupt heads as leaders (Argentina and Venezuela, Pakistan).

These countries do not have the financial clout of the USA, the UK or Japan. The probability of America or Japan defaulting on debt is (at this point in time) MINIMAL. We might have a lot of problems, but we’re still a strong, entrepreneural country.

Think about it, if you don’t have faith that the US has the ability to pay off her debts, what are you going to do with your dollar ?


11 posted on 12/08/2009 1:30:28 PM PST by SeekAndFind (wH)
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