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1 posted on 11/27/2009 9:46:17 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

What they really want is more secure email


2 posted on 11/27/2009 9:51:17 PM PST by bigbob
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To: neverdem
<rhetorical question>Does Revkin mention anywhere in this article that he is a part of the scandal?</rhetorical question>
3 posted on 11/27/2009 9:51:40 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: neverdem

Hmmm. THe New York Times takes notice of the shennanigans by the global warming “true-believers”.

Next the NYT will ask Obama to show his true copy of his Birth Certificate.

Okay. We get only one of these. The other is a dream.


4 posted on 11/27/2009 9:51:56 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: neverdem
"Climate Science" is just another name for BS. Like "Political Science," "Social Science," and "Environmental Science."

All ramped up after real science won WWII by saving the lives of millions of American GIs with the atom bomb. The wannabee frauds who couldn't learn higher mathematics but wanted to be recognized as intellectuals made their move: try to grab some prestige by concatenating the word "science" to their pathetic hobbies.

It's been a long time coming.

6 posted on 11/27/2009 9:54:02 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: neverdem

What is really called for are arrests and convictions.


7 posted on 11/27/2009 9:54:15 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: neverdem

“....small network of climatologists....”

In other words: The crooks paid by the UNITED NATIONS to spread this HOAX.


8 posted on 11/27/2009 9:56:39 PM PST by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side, Omoslem hates his white side.)
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To: neverdem

“Some prominent climate scientists are calling for (((changes)))...”

Changes, CHANGES!! This is far beyond a discussion of “changes”. CHARGES is the operative word.

Heads should roll from top to bottom over this, so much so, that we should be filling prisons all over the world with these criminal conspirators.

Of course, it won’t happen, other than a few token low level sacrificial lambs.. then we will be told to move on, it’s been dealt with.


10 posted on 11/27/2009 9:59:36 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is Americas First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: neverdem

Anti-truth, life-devaluing, climate criminals should be prosecuted.

Amazing that all of the anti-criminal agents and agencies in the world...and none has looked, is looking, or will look into these criminals.

Who will protect us from our protectors?


12 posted on 11/27/2009 10:02:26 PM PST by PGalt
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
The scientists say that the e-mail messages, which have circulated on the Internet and which disclose the inner workings of a small network of climatologists who chart the planet's temperature, have damaged the public's trust in the evidence that humans are dangerously warming the planet, just as many countries are poised to start reining in greenhouse gas emissions.
s/b Just as many countries are poised to impose unjustifiable sanctions on working people everywhere in order to enrich Al Gore et al. Thanks neverdem.
14 posted on 11/27/2009 10:13:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: neverdem

bump


15 posted on 11/27/2009 10:15:21 PM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: neverdem
So "Andy" Revkin, email pen pal to Dr. Mann, writes the straight news story in the New York Times without disclosing his involvement. At the NYT, even when transparency is the subject, so too is it the first casualty.

It is a fairly balanced media-template story, buried deep in the Thanksgiving Saturday paper, and provides the signal to the MSM to provide the story coverage that is dilatory, grudging, desultory and fleeting.

We'll see a blip of "See, we covered it" stories over the weekend, and the MSM blackout will again descend.

16 posted on 11/27/2009 10:16:45 PM PST by Plutarch
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Another house of lies falls into the sea. It’s the fault of the rising seawaters caused by global warming alright.


17 posted on 11/27/2009 10:17:21 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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Here is the NYT trying to set up a bracket on thought. It is far worse than can be described in a few words. The EU president just got through talking about the one world government where the resourses of the planet are controlled by the corporations and those that own the corporations.

There is an unbelievable treaty already drafted and hidden at the UN website described in the third part of this Alex Jones interview with Lord Christopher Monckton= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoYhI5DosQs

This is a crime of such magnitude since it was the stroke meant to do away with the sovereignty of nations all under the bogus motto of save the world and this is the way the NYT tries to control thought. We get it. The globalist own the media and we see with each controlled media story how they cannot give up the hoax in the call for justice that would see Al Gore and others in prison for this fraud.

The bracket will not hold NYT. Nobody with any sense will listen to your crap. We have president continuing the fraud too and a House of Representative that should immediately rescind the enslavement bill they passed with mendacity of saving us.

The carbone tax and all its frauds and implications are in your face, hang-them-high treason.


18 posted on 11/27/2009 10:20:14 PM PST by poodle
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To: neverdem

Copenhagan will now turn in to a rally to end speech they disagree with.


19 posted on 11/27/2009 10:24:06 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: neverdem

ANDREW C. REVKIN who was involved in the emails!


20 posted on 11/27/2009 10:26:26 PM PST by kcvl
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To: neverdem

You mean changes on how to not get caught in fraud?


21 posted on 11/27/2009 10:36:49 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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“No one has been as badly let down by the revelations in these emails as those of us who have championed the science,” he wrote. “We should be the first to demand that it is unimpeachable, not the last.”

There are two conclusions that can be made as you watch Congress try to brush off this scandal as irrelevant, and that is either they are beyond stupid or they have known all along that it was a hoax but were using it to gain power and control.

“the disclosures could offer a chance to finally bring the practices of climate researchers and the intergovernmental panel into the modern era, where transparency — enforced legally or illegally — is inevitable and appropriate.”

Interesting choice of words “legal or illegally” however these climatologists need to be fired and prosecuted and the conclusions based on the data be declared tainted beyond usability. Transparency was just one issue. The important issues were the politicizing of a scientific process and the potential destruction of our economy.

“The I.P.C.C. itself, through its structural tendency to politicize climate change science, has perhaps helped to foster a more authoritarian and exclusive form of knowledge production,” he said in an e-mail message, “just at a time when a globalizing and wired cosmopolitan culture is demanding of science something much more open and inclusive.”

Again the UN is involved in another scandal, the UN agenda will always be at odds with any freedom loving nation, since their entire agenda is making a one world communist government with either Clinton or Obama as the head.


23 posted on 11/27/2009 10:59:21 PM PST by ODDITHER (HAT)
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She and other scientists are seeking more transparency in the way climate data is handled and in the methods used to analyze it.

Same thing Obama claimed he would do once he was in charge.

24 posted on 11/27/2009 11:33:00 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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The strangest thing about this is how hard it is to slow down the engine and how loud the now careering passengers are crying for “full steam ahead...”

I feel like adopting a couple of polar bears and putting them in charge of a penquin sanctuary.


25 posted on 11/27/2009 11:36:43 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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Revkin, who is himself knee-deep in CRU manure, calls upon the rogue's gallery of AGW for his fairy tale.

Mike Hulme, a climate scientist at the University of East Anglia and author of “Why We Disagree About Climate Change,” said the disclosures could offer a chance to finally bring the practices of climate researchers and the intergovernmental panel into the modern era, where transparency — enforced legally or illegally — is inevitable and appropriate.

“The I.P.C.C. itself, through its structural tendency to politicize climate change science, has perhaps helped to foster a more authoritarian and exclusive form of knowledge production,” he said in an e-mail message, “just at a time when a globalizing and wired cosmopolitan culture is demanding of science something much more open and inclusive.”

Hulme's book was described in this American Thinker review as "the musings of a British socialist about how to use the global warming issue as a means of persuading "the masses" to give up their economic liberties." He is the leading proponent of "post-normal science," where, to put it simply, beliefs, rather than facts, matter. No wonder he critiicizes the IPCC for "knowledge production." Post-normal science doesn't depend on knowledge. For him, the IPCC has fulfilled its propaganda objectives, but the controversy about the validity of  the CRU data upon which the AGW house of cards is built has dragged it too deeply into the real world to be useful going foward.

"Climate scientist" Mike Hulme believes "we need better politics, not better science."

26 posted on 11/27/2009 11:38:28 PM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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