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Dubai is just a harbinger of things to come for sovereign debt
Telegraph UK ^ | 11/27/09 | Jeremy Warner

Posted on 11/27/2009 3:24:50 PM PST by FromLori

Watch out. This may be just the beginning. In the scale of things, the debt problems of Dubai are little more than a flea bite. Dubai’s sovereign debts total “just” $80bn, which counts for nothing against the trillions being raised by advanced economies to plug fiscal deficits.

Dubai has been a one-way ticket of economic expansion until recently

Small wonder, though, that this minor tremor has sent such shock waves around the wider capital markets. The fear is that threatened default in this tiny desert kingdom is just a harginger of things to come for government debt markets as a whole. According to new estimates by Moody’s, the credit rating agency, the total stock of sovereign debt worldwide will have risen by nearly 50 per cent between 2007 and 2010 to $15.3 trillion. The great bulk of this increase comes not from irrelevant little states like Dubai, but from the big advanced economies – America, Europe, and Japan.

Perversely, they are for the time being beneficiaries of the “flight to safety” that trouble in Dubai has sparked. Government bond yields in the major advanced economies have fallen

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dubai; economy; sovereigndebt

1 posted on 11/27/2009 3:24:51 PM PST by FromLori
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To: FromLori; perchprism; LomanBill; JDoutrider; tired1; Maine Mariner; demsux

ping and related

Just have a squint at the planning that went into this one. Here’s the latest from Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum. “Our intervention in Dubai World was carefully planned and reflects its specific financial position,” declared the chairman of the grandly titled Supreme Fiscal Committee. “The government is spearheading the restructuring of this commercial operation in the full knowledge of how the markets would react.”

Sadly, the Sheikh did not spell out all the careful planning that went on. First, work out when the 10-day Eid religious festival falls this year. Then, just before you close the markets for the duration, slip out a request from a state-backed company reeling under $60bn (£36.4bn) of loans for a six-month debt standstill. Getting the whole farrago to coincide with America’s Thanksgiving holiday was, it must be said, genius.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/6673470/Why-we-must-consider-Dubais-careful-planning-a-work-of-pure-genius.html


2 posted on 11/27/2009 3:27:11 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori

Dubai is the first cockroach.

In the Cockroach Theory of Markets, once you see that first cockroach you can bet there is going to be plenty more showing up real soon.


3 posted on 11/27/2009 3:32:00 PM PST by Pelham ("Badges?!! We don' need no stinkin' badges!!")
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To: FromLori

I’s like to slap around that old Chinese guy who said “may you live in interesting times”


4 posted on 11/27/2009 3:37:39 PM PST by dennisw (Obama -- our very own loopy, leftist god-thing.)
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To: FromLori

this can’t be good for Citi.


5 posted on 11/27/2009 3:38:03 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (whitey's over it.)
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To: dennisw

When did people stop remembering they were commies?

By the way this is good

http://johngaltfla.com/blog3/2009/11/27/something-wicked-this-way-comes-again-thank-you-banksters/


6 posted on 11/27/2009 3:39:09 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Citi screw them we the taxpayers own the largest share of citi!

http://nlpc.org/stories/2009/09/27/taxpayer-owned-citigroup-still-bankrolling-acorn


7 posted on 11/27/2009 3:42:00 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Pelham
In the Cockroach Theory of Markets, once you see that first cockroach you can bet there is going to be plenty more showing up real soon.

Ah yes, CMT (Cockroach Market Theory). EMH (Efficient Markets Hypothesis), move over!

8 posted on 11/27/2009 3:44:14 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: FromLori

We read Galt frequently. Doesn’t do much for a good nights sleep :)


9 posted on 11/27/2009 3:51:13 PM PST by karatemom (Thankful for the small blessings.)
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To: karatemom

I know but it is good reading more realistic then what they are telling people.

http://johngaltfla.com/blog3/2009/11/27/something-wicked-this-way-comes-again-thank-you-banksters/


10 posted on 11/27/2009 3:54:42 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori

I hope this bring more and more countries down. Its time to end the pyramid of debt.


11 posted on 11/27/2009 3:57:41 PM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: Pelham

We’ll find out what Tiger has in Dubai, Won’t we.


12 posted on 11/27/2009 4:00:19 PM PST by hkp123
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To: FromLori

True that...we have been following him since the summer on frugal squirrels and tree of liberty.


13 posted on 11/27/2009 4:00:27 PM PST by karatemom (Thankful for the small blessings.)
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To: FromLori

this “event” could, in this day and age, be blown into something cataclysmic, but I don’t think there’s any good reason for it to be.


14 posted on 11/27/2009 4:03:04 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (whitey's over it.)
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To: FightThePower!

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aSDypi9pbVkw&pos=2


15 posted on 11/27/2009 4:05:56 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori

Reading other articles, too, it seems like “Dubai” had “Don’t buy” written all over it. NO NATURAL RESOURCES.

parsy, who thought they had oil


16 posted on 11/27/2009 4:38:38 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: FromLori
"Watch out. This may be just the beginning."

Yeah. That's what Wahid threatened while working for the free traitors over here. Such tactics will only cause flashes in the pan for keeping the USD unnaturally, internationally high in the quest to subject us all to more globalism. ...no empire for you, limey feudalists and other proponents of centralized government.

Either the dollar will continue to fall, or we'll use the constitutional remedy of tariffs.


17 posted on 11/27/2009 4:53:13 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: parsifal

Yes. Dubai was big on fornicating with traitorous Europeans and related business—tourism, real estate, shipping and the like. It was one of those places for Lawrence of Arabia wanna-bes. ...didn’t have much to do with real Americans, and the max possible $60 billion is hardly a visible flash in the pan in the big picture of the world. ...mountains...molehills.


18 posted on 11/27/2009 5:10:29 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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