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Gold drops first day in 10 on Dubai worries
Marketwatch ^ | November 27, 2009 | Polya Lesova, Myra P. Saefong,

Posted on 11/27/2009 5:41:16 AM PST by danielmryan

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To: Kozak
Wickipedia is your friend, ...sometimes. It states the UAE has the worlds 6th largest oil reserves. Where do you think they got the money in the first place? Selling sand?
41 posted on 11/27/2009 11:30:25 AM PST by chuckles
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To: Uncle Ike
Could the implosion of Dubai be the joker that brings the whole house of cards down??

Dubai was doomed to fail and that should be a lesson for "service economies" everywhere. Unlike its neighbors, Dubai is oil-poor. They bought prosperity by borrowing excessive sums of money and enticing unlucky poor neighbors to become slaves and enticing the world's rich to spend vast sums of money there as tourists.

The thing that should be, but probably isn't, scary to most of the people here is that Dubai is the last remaining secular middle eastern nation. If or when the government falls, it will be replaced with a religious one.

I wasn't allowed to post this as a regular article, but please read The Dark Side of Dubai.

42 posted on 11/27/2009 11:58:14 AM PST by altair (I want him to fail)
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To: Nervous Tick
Put another way: do your REALLY think the Eurozone economy, or Japan’s, is so much better that you would rather hold your capital in their currency?

The yen is looking awfully good right now. So is the Euro. The kicker is what will happen at Copenhagen next month. Any nation that signs on to the global warming fraud is going down if there are any bastions of sanity remaining.

43 posted on 11/27/2009 12:04:46 PM PST by altair (I want him to fail)
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To: chuckles

I think Dubai has no oil. It is in Abu Dhabi.


44 posted on 11/27/2009 12:06:46 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: bert
OK, so what you are suggesting is that Washington DC has no oil, ergo the US has no oil? Dubai is the seat for the UAE, which is the sixth largest oil producer in the world. If Dubai needs money, the UAE won't sell any oil to get it?

I must be on some other planet. Maybe they can move their skyscrapers and man made islands to Abu Dhabi so they can have some oil.

If Dubai isn't oil money, what is it?

If this works out, maybe we here in Texas can cut the oil off to the rest of Amerika and keep the money for ourselves..

45 posted on 11/27/2009 4:01:29 PM PST by chuckles
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To: Nervous Tick

Their central banks start playing the same sort of games that ours does. In Vietnam’s case, they’re devaluing their currency (the dong) at the same time they’re raising interest rates to contain inflation. Their government is changing their “dollar reference ratio” (which is sorta like a peg). They were forced to do this by a trade deficit, increasing gold prices and declining dollar reserves.

I’m happy to answer what questions I can. NB that I’m not a “financial professional” with a Series ‘n’ license - I trade only my own account, with my own money. That said, in the last 10 years, I (a supposed “dumb money” investor) have outperformed the supposed “professionals” I had paid to invest some of our money - to the ultimate extent that I’ll never pay supposed “professionals” to touch it again.

If I want someone else to manage our money, I’ll give it to a bunch of crack-smoking monkeys, who would doubtless have more impressive results.


46 posted on 11/27/2009 8:18:05 PM PST by NVDave
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To: chuckles
Dubai does not equal UAE. Read on....

"Although Dubai's economy was built on the back of the oil industry,[8] revenues from oil and natural gas currently account for less than 6% of the emirate's revenues.[9] It is estimated that Dubai produces 240,000 barrels of oil a day and substantial quantities of gas from offshore fields. The emirate's share in UAE's gas revenues is about 2%. Dubai's oil reserves have diminished significantly and are expected to be exhausted in 20 years.[68] Real estate and construction (22.6%),[11] trade (16%), entrepôt (15%) and financial services (11%) are the largest contributors to Dubai's economy.[69]
47 posted on 11/28/2009 5:50:50 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Kozak
What I'm saying is Abu Dhabi won't let Dubai go down economically because they have much to lose themselves. My bet is Abu Dahbi will pump oil to pay the debt. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Even a prince in Saudi Arabia has a large investment in Citi bank will be pushing for more oil sales to save his toga. Citi made a large loan to Dubai AFTER the bail out.

Why would The UAE NOT try to help if many more nations need to sell oil for their problems.

IMHO, oil, is going DOWN, the dollar UP, and the foot on America's neck may loosen. All we need now is Republicans to take over and drill drill drill, and we may save ourselves from certain collapse. The Ruskies want war with Iran to drive up oil prices to $200 a bbl. This could even help there.

BTW, the UAE exists just for this reason. They are small fish in a big pond and have to stick together or be eaten. If they start to pick sides amongst themselves, there is no UAE. Some guy used to say "Divided we fall".

48 posted on 11/28/2009 10:25:14 AM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles
Wickipedia is your friend, ...sometimes. It states the UAE has the worlds 6th largest oil reserves.

Dubai has roughly the same relationship to the UAE that California has to the United States, only weaker. Dubai proper has very little oil. The rest of the UAE is going to be as enthusiastic about a Dubai bailout that the rest of the US has for a California bailout.

Where do you think they got the money in the first place? Selling sand?

Yes. That is exactly what they have done. They put a lot of fancy buildings on top of it, but it's still just sand.

49 posted on 11/29/2009 6:19:43 AM PST by altair (I want him to fail)
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Just copy and paste and wait till Dennis Gartman speaks. Seems Dubai has some oil to back them,..........from Abu Dhabi. Fancy that!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/34153730

50 posted on 11/30/2009 12:22:19 PM PST by chuckles
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