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Live Thread: Senate Debate and Cloture Vote on Motion to Proceed to Debate ObamaCare
Saturday, November 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 11/21/2009 9:43:50 AM PST by kristinn

C-SPAN 2 is carrying the Senate floor debate live this afternoon.

The Democrats control the floor right now. Earlier, Republican Senators Judd Gregg, Kit Bond, Jeff Sessions and David Vitter gave good speeches and dialogues on the budget-busting effects of ObamaCare.

Maria Cantwell is speaking now. Mary Landrieu is excpected to speak shortly.

The cloture vote is scheduled for 8 p.m. EST tonight.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; cloture; deathpanels; healthcare; hillarycare; obamacare; obamao; romneycare; socializedmedicine; supermajority
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To: plain talk

It’s over.

^
Sure glad I made it to a ripe old middle age


441 posted on 11/21/2009 4:22:16 PM PST by Son House (The penalty for Conservatism will be high.)
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To: Son House
Ram it thru Saturday night...discuss it on Sunday and take off for their Thanksgiving Holiday. Sweet...

sw

442 posted on 11/21/2009 4:23:21 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: musicman

bookmark


443 posted on 11/21/2009 4:23:28 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: kristinn

I jumped on a Lousisana TEA Party site last night and joined so I could comment.

I suggested that they do Operation: Hound’em

Get all groups state wide to protest in front of her local offices - her HOME - her DC office and her DC digs.

Day in and Day out - we won’t leave you alone - it would take lots of organization and some extension of hospitality for incoming volunteers - like a back yard to camp in - rooms in your home - normal rules of life don’t apply.

It would be a Blitz - hate to use that phrase - but it is something SEIU or Code Pink would do. Can’t we (lawfully) use their tactics?

It would catch them offguard - Hound’em - every one in every state that voted for this cloture - KILL the BIll Sarah Palin just wrote tonight.

Each time we let something slide we are further down the slope.

Someone had this phrase on a post last night and I don’t know the name of who so sorry but I was stunned when I read it and I have been telling people all day. Only the intelligent will understand it and it is .

So (credit to other blogger):

Three If By Government

Let me know which one of you came up with that. Anyone with a sense of history will be moved by this.

I feel like painting my face blue and running all the way to DC. Irish :)


444 posted on 11/21/2009 4:24:29 PM PST by 30Moves
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To: roses of sharon
Wash DC has become the DEM bee hive even when Bush was in charge . The Dems run the place and treated the Bush and the GOP in general as foreign occupiers. These senate and congressional reps are very insulated from real life and really despise us .
I suspect we are heading for a huge crisis caused by states breaking away dud to obamacare.AZ has on the 2010 ballot a state amendment which would make Obama care null and void and I can see other Red states doing the same thing . there will large population shifts from blue to red states by the doers and the deadbeats will be going towards socialists states.
445 posted on 11/21/2009 4:24:44 PM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: plain talk
this vote was hyped and spun by Reid and Obama and Obama state media because they knew they had this votes to start the debate .
They needed a PR victory since the bill is very unpopular and so is the Marxist in the WH and the Dems are having a real batch of bad news and Sarah Palin is sucking up all the attention/energy.

Now the real battle begins in the senate debates .It will be ugly and nasty and be dragged out .
The fight is still on folks .

446 posted on 11/21/2009 4:30:48 PM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: Son House

By the 2013 most of the poplulation will have reached medicare age. Yet all of the politicians keep referring to them as Seniors! They are not seniors, they are the Baby Boomers!


447 posted on 11/21/2009 4:31:41 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: MajorThomas

These photos have brought me to tears tonight. OH GOD help our land!!!!! May Sarah take hold of the reigns, and drive us back out of the sesspool!!!! Protect her Dear God!!!


448 posted on 11/21/2009 4:32:17 PM PST by pollywog ( It's Saturday ~~~ But SUNDAY'S A COMING'!!!!)
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To: spectre

Dodd on Teddy Kennedy “insure every American has decent health care”

^
The only guy who’s going to believe that bull Dodd. Enjoy your Government benefits while your insured constituents wait for your ‘health care’ for them, 3 yrs just to start...


449 posted on 11/21/2009 4:32:53 PM PST by Son House (The penalty for Conservatism will be high.)
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To: ncalburt

McConnel R-Ky is starting slow...


450 posted on 11/21/2009 4:33:55 PM PST by Son House (The penalty for Conservatism will be high.)
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To: ncalburt

I thought the States would have stepped up by now, but most have caved in order to suck stimulus money out of the Feds.

I used to think the States would save us, what nonsense.


451 posted on 11/21/2009 4:35:29 PM PST by roses of sharon (A warrior assumes that he is already dead, so he might as well fight.)
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To: ncalburt

Now the real battle begins in the senate debates .It will be ugly and nasty and be dragged out .
The fight is still on folks .
+++++++++++++

Hear, hear!


452 posted on 11/21/2009 4:36:39 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: kristinn

I jumped on a Lousisana TEA Party site last night and joined so I could comment.

I suggested that they do Operation: Hound’em

Get all groups state wide to protest in front of her local offices - her HOME - her DC office and her DC digs.

Day in and Day out - we won’t leave you alone - it would take lots of organization and some extension of hospitality for incoming volunteers - like a back yard to camp in - rooms in your home - normal rules of life don’t apply.

It would be a Blitz - hate to use that phrase - but it is something SEIU or Code Pink would do. Can’t we (lawfully) use their tactics?

It would catch them offguard - Hound’em - every one in every state that voted for this cloture - KILL the BIll Sarah Palin just wrote tonight.

Each time we let something slide we are further down the slope.

Someone had this phrase on a post last night and I don’t know the name of who so sorry but I was stunned when I read it and I have been telling people all day. Only the intelligent will understand it and it is .

So (credit to other blogger):

Three If By Government

Let me know which one of you came up with that. Anyone with a sense of history will be moved by this.

I feel like painting my face blue and running all the way to DC. Irish :)


453 posted on 11/21/2009 4:38:15 PM PST by 30Moves
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To: ncalburt

I didn’t know until I read York’s article that this was not a cloture vote. Someone needs to change the headline. This is only to start debate — where did that come from? First time I have ever heard that.


454 posted on 11/21/2009 4:38:52 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Michael Barnes

“I’m just keeping my eye out for the first state to secede.

Outside that, I am considering other countries. I will not submit any further to Gov’t servitude.”

I’m looking for land in northern Oklahoma (Texas is just too stinking hot) because I expect at least in my children’s lives to see a new country formed from Texas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana (maybe Arkansas too)


455 posted on 11/21/2009 4:40:53 PM PST by crusher (Political Correctness: Stalinism Without the Charm)
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To: kristinn

It’s not what they are against. It’s what they are for and that is called pork. It’s just the usual feeding frenzy going on now. Oink oink. The media likes to give them their privacy while favors are being handed out for votes.


456 posted on 11/21/2009 4:40:53 PM PST by Enough is ENOUGH (Select conservatives for the coming primaries, now. Vote out the incumbents.)
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To: roses of sharon
Read this thread. I think this entire vote hype on the debate was Reid/ Obama state media spin to help out the Marxist. AZ does have a 2010 state amendment to be voted on that will make Obama care null and void. I suspect other states will follow if anything gets passed. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2391749/posts
457 posted on 11/21/2009 4:42:20 PM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: kristinn
How can they get 60 without Senator Byrd? I thought he was bed ridden?
458 posted on 11/21/2009 4:45:15 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: 30Moves

http://www.ehow.com/how_2096900_recall-us-senator.html

The 18 states allowing for recall are as follows: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington and Wisconsin.

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A website or a phone campaign are good ways to get your petition going. Going door-to-door is also an option although it is more time consuming than the other two. This is important since you only have a set number of days to obtain the correct number of signatures—anywhere from 30 to 180 days.
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You will be fighting an uphill battle to recall a U.S. Senator. No member of Congress has ever been recalled in the history of the United States.


459 posted on 11/21/2009 4:47:50 PM PST by roses of sharon (A warrior assumes that he is already dead, so he might as well fight.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Ok wait until they give 22 million illegals citizenship which is next then it will be over!!!!


460 posted on 11/21/2009 4:49:25 PM PST by tallyhoe
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