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Have Democratic Leaders Gone Mad?
Real Clear Politics ^ | Jay Cost

Posted on 11/20/2009 6:36:07 PM PST by re_tail20

With the introduction of Harry Reid's health care bill - talk will inevitably focus on whether the public option or the Stupak amendment will undermine the legislation. Yet, if the bill dies, I do not think either of these will be the primary cause of death.

I think this will be the culprit:

(See chart in link)

This is the CBO's analysis of how the Reid bill will cut Medicare. The total reductions come out to $491 billion over 10 years when everything is factored in.

The following has been said by other commentators, but I have to add my voice to the chorus: This is insanity, Democratic leaders. Why are you doing this?

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; healthcare; medicare; reid
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1 posted on 11/20/2009 6:36:08 PM PST by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20
This is insanity, Democratic leaders. Why are you doing this?

Simple: to create a phony cost figure. After the bill is passed, they'll just add the $500 billion back by attaching it to another bill.
2 posted on 11/20/2009 6:40:15 PM PST by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: re_tail20

They are desperate. Either they literally are crazy or, more likely, they are basing their action on information we do not have and have a completely different agenda then one would think.


3 posted on 11/20/2009 6:40:31 PM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: re_tail20

Pure larceny...


4 posted on 11/20/2009 6:40:49 PM PST by mo
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To: re_tail20

Gingrich Khan didn’t have the State-Run Media and the AARP to lay down covering fire for him.


5 posted on 11/20/2009 6:41:29 PM PST by Lysandru
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To: re_tail20

This is insanity, Democratic leaders. Why are you doing this?
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They want the sheep poor and needy so they vote Dem.

We’ll soon be a third world nation if the red ink doesn’t recede.


6 posted on 11/20/2009 6:43:03 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Obama will sink as fast as he rose. Idolatry will not succeed. Be patient, folks...)
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To: Terpfen

Right now they don’t give a flip what they pass. They want to pass SOMETHING that will give them total control over all health dollars. They’ll figure out what they’re going to do after they get control, and the primary point is getting power, not providing health care.


7 posted on 11/20/2009 6:43:44 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: re_tail20

If they don’t reduce Medicare & Social Security payments drastically real soon, bad things will happen. Killing a lot of old people is the most effective way to do that.


8 posted on 11/20/2009 6:46:15 PM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: RobRoy

There’s no ‘more likely’ about it. Their agenda has nothing to do with jobs, the economy, providing a real solution to health care, or voter apathy. Their intent is to get as much destabilizing legislation through Congress as they can, then push through Amnesty prior to the 2010 elections, thus solidifying their re-election.


9 posted on 11/20/2009 6:48:14 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: re_tail20; 70th Division; unkus; flat; ZULU; Clintonfatigued; basil; NorwegianViking; ...

This is what tyranny looks like up close and personal. It’s up to We The People to get these traitors out of office in 2010 and 2012. If not, we’re destroyed as a free people. These Congressional politicians have declared upon the American people. A vote in 2010 and 2012 for any of these traitors is a vote to destroy your own freedom.

Congress is destroying our children and grandchildren’s futures and they’ve legalized killing whomever Pelosi and Reid’s Death Panels choose with Hussein Obama’s good wishes.


10 posted on 11/20/2009 6:48:28 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead (clean the sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: bcsco
"Their intent is to get as much destabilizing legislation through Congress as they can, then push through Amnesty prior to the 2010 elections, thus solidifying their re-election."

I think you just nailed it. They don't want their rotten asses tossed out of office so they had to figure some way to piss off the masses and still stay where they are. A pox on all of them. Good call.

11 posted on 11/20/2009 6:54:59 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: re_tail20

these are huge cuts...can't wait until the greatest generation see these numbers
12 posted on 11/20/2009 6:57:01 PM PST by cd jones (Liberals: spreading misery, calling it equality)
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To: re_tail20

They haven’t gone mad, they’ve been mad for quite some time now.


13 posted on 11/20/2009 6:58:21 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: bcsco
*Bingo* - Hard ball political thuggery is being played out before our very eyes. Unless we can give some of these dem pols some protection and cover, we may get this diabolical bill crammed down our throats whether we like it or not.

This bill marks one of the most dangerous times in our political history. Pray that our father delivers us from it.

14 posted on 11/20/2009 6:59:08 PM PST by demkicker (Helping Democrats Become Extinct)
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To: bcsco
*Bingo* - Hard ball political thuggery is being played out before our very eyes. Unless we can give some of these dem pols some protection and cover, we may get this diabolical bill crammed down our throats whether we like it or not.

This bill marks one of the most dangerous times in our political history. Pray that our father delivers us from it.

15 posted on 11/20/2009 6:59:12 PM PST by demkicker (Helping Democrats Become Extinct)
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To: re_tail20
This is insanity, Democratic leaders. Why are you doing this?

Treason.

16 posted on 11/20/2009 6:59:31 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
"Congress is destroying our children and grandchildren’s futures and they’ve legalized killing whomever Pelosi and Reid’s Death Panels choose with Hussein Obama’s good wishes.

These jerks are lower than a snake's belly in a wagon wheel rut. They are pissing on the graves of patriots.

17 posted on 11/20/2009 7:03:45 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: cd jones
Baby boomers are right behind seniors for euthanizing. A lot of people voted for this. This is also about putting ACORD/SEIU/UAW/Postal Worker Union types in charge of running healthcare. Doctors and nurses have no idea what they are in for.
18 posted on 11/20/2009 7:03:57 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Republic of Texas

They are not mad - they are evil.


19 posted on 11/20/2009 7:05:11 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: re_tail20
This is insanity, Democratic leaders. Why are you doing this?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It is not insanity. They know damned well what they are doing, trying to put our liberty to death, and convert our nation to a nationalist socialist Utopia, where citizens do what the government tells them, with our health care and indetedness as a prod hanging over our heads. This is not mere "legislation!"

It is an attempted coup under the guise of "health care."

And the eems hope to destroy our Republic forever. THATS THE NAME OF THIS GAME!

A COUP FOR THE OBAMA JUNTA.

If this bill passes, the Senate will have 65 new Senators by 2014.

And the country will be a politically violent place for a generation.

Bring it on you lefty pukes!!!!!

You wanted peace with your electorate? Say good-bye to it.

The electorate is about to be transformed into something no one has witnessed in over a hundred years.

How dare they sick SEIU, and ACORN thugs on us, to beat on us and push us around!

The fires are lit.


20 posted on 11/20/2009 7:05:17 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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