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NY-23 2009: America has changed [Hoffman concedes defeat to Owens]
Doug Hoffman for Congress ^ | 2009-11-04

Posted on 11/03/2009 9:58:12 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I disagree, the 23rd race is only an issue to pros and dedicated political junkies and activists, they know what happened here regardless of a close loss.

A loss may enable the media to make noise for the masses but the insiders and the GOP will see the lesson as the same as a win, 3 or 4 percentage points one way or the other doesn’t change anything for the study of what took place in the race and what it means.


21 posted on 11/03/2009 10:07:01 PM PST by ansel12
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

NOT hardly.....a guy comes in and decides to run about a month ago...gets NO money from the RNC....and almost pulls it off....AND, the scuzzy RINO is knocked out.....Not bad....oh, and we put the GOP on defense!!!


22 posted on 11/03/2009 10:07:11 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tagline, oh tagline, whereart thou?)
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To: rabscuttle385; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; ...

Thank you Doug Hoffman... interesting and classy comments here from Doug.


23 posted on 11/03/2009 10:07:44 PM PST by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: April Lexington

If Hoffman had won, he’d be caucusing with the Republicans and it would be a win for all. All would have come together under our terms. That is gone now.


24 posted on 11/03/2009 10:07:47 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: goodnesswins

And he behaved honorably.

Good job Doug Hoffman.


25 posted on 11/03/2009 10:08:51 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: Psalm 144
He did eliminate the most extreme leftist.

Yes!

Thank you Doug Hoffman! Photobucket

26 posted on 11/03/2009 10:09:05 PM PST by kara2008
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To: ReneeLynn

WE didn’t win anything. The GOP won two races. Conservatives went out on a limb to teach the GOP a lesson in NY23 and we lost. We may celebrate along side the Republicans on the other races, but WE lost this one.


27 posted on 11/03/2009 10:09:29 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I respectfully disagree. This was the Battle of Long Island. Valley Forge, Trenton, Saratoga and Yorktown lie ahead.

There was a flag from that war that had the image of a beaver gnawing on a tree. Below the image was the motto:

PERSERVERANCE

We will prevail.


28 posted on 11/03/2009 10:09:30 PM PST by Psalm 144 (FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE, I AM PROUD OF NEW JERSEY!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

WHAT!! are you crazy..this was huge...he came very close...do you know who he was 2 weeks ago...no...neither did I and he almost won..we ousted a RINO and we almost defeated someone who had their name in for a long time...THIS WAS HUGE AND THE DEMS KNOW IT!!! GIVEN 1 MORE WEEK WE WOULD HAVE WON. THIS IS GOOD STUFF RIGHT HERE!


29 posted on 11/03/2009 10:09:36 PM PST by Texas4ever (God is in control!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

what the hell are you talking about? This race was screwed up from the get go. We got the message out..give me a break. Leave it to some here to take a huge successful night like tonight and spin it into defeat. Go away,


30 posted on 11/03/2009 10:09:47 PM PST by Hildy
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
WTF?

You do recall the following, don't you?

1) There was no primary to allow people's true positions to be aired -- party officials in consultation with DC RINOs chose Scuzzy.

2) A month ago Hoffmann was mired in last place.

3) Sarah Palin spoke up, but did not campaign in person. A couple of Tweets and/or Facebook postings.

(Contrast this, by the way, to the multiple PERSONAL appearances that Obama(+) put in for Corzine and Deeds. FAIL.)

4) Hoffmann surged.

5) The RINOs did a double-pronged attack. The GOP hierarchy and heavy hitters -- including GOP chair Steele and RINO-turncoat-Newt -- publicly endorsed Scuzzy.

6) The GOP also spent $900,000 on Scuzzy.

7) At the last minute, Scuzzy dropped out. This had the effect of negating all of the GOP-cast absentee ballots, now guaranteed to be wasted for purposes of defeating the DEM.

8) To make the stab in the back DOUBLY sure, Scuzzy officially, and in public, endorsed the DEM. (WTF???)

9) Hoffman still came within 3% as a Third Party candidate, after coming from nowhere to remove the hand-picked GOP RINO quisling.

10) But all you can do is say "we lost, boo hoo."

I beg to differ.

Cheers!


(+)Have YOU accepted Barack H. Obama as your personal savior? (mmm, mmm, mmm)

31 posted on 11/03/2009 10:09:51 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: April Lexington

Exactly. Hoffman should have held on until noon Wednesday at the earliest. Let the dust really settle.


32 posted on 11/03/2009 10:10:31 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: April Lexington

NEVER, EVER conceed defeat...


Agreed


33 posted on 11/03/2009 10:10:47 PM PST by Psalm 144 (FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE, I AM PROUD OF NEW JERSEY!)
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To: Texas4ever

One more week? Yeah, if the election took place in 2013, it would have been a landslide...if only...


34 posted on 11/03/2009 10:10:58 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Go. Read. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2378053/posts

Stop being a negative defeatist. I think the NJ thing is just amazing.


36 posted on 11/03/2009 10:13:06 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: rabscuttle385

daily kos endorsed Dede Scozzafava saying “fueled by the fact that Dede Scozzafava, the Republican, is actually the most liberal candidate in the race. (Heck, she has run on the very liberalWorking Families Party ballot line in the past.)

Sure, she is a Republican, and opposes the public option. But she’s been willing to raise taxes when budgets require it, and is to the left of most Democrats on social issues (including supporting gay marriage).”

Romney/Scozzafava 2012


37 posted on 11/03/2009 10:13:54 PM PST by ansel12
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To: rabscuttle385

Thank you, Doug Hoffman.


38 posted on 11/03/2009 10:13:58 PM PST by Jeb21 (www.jewsagainstobama.com)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Hoffman did great....we ousted a hack RINO and WON
2 huge fights in very Left leaning States...things look
great for the Conservative GOP’s...I AM ALL SMILES AND SO WERE THE FOLKS IN HOFFMANS PARTY..HE WILL BE BACK AND EVERYONE KNOWS HIS NAME!!!! GREAT NIGHT!!!


39 posted on 11/03/2009 10:14:16 PM PST by Texas4ever (God is in control!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

So having a liberal like Scozzofava would have been a win?

Having 171 Republicans instead of 170 in the house is a victory? How was having Scozzofava in the house a win for the party? What would have happened with her that won’t happen now?

She wasn’t winning anyway. She was down by 5 in the last poll before Palin endorsed and by 15 before she dropped out. As we saw tonight, all the polls understated Owens’s support. So she would have lost anyway, likely by a larger margin than Hoffman. Owens was winning regardless.

This was a win because it rallied conservatives and showed them that they can make adifference and get the right candidates which will play out in 2010 and beyond.

It was always a longshot to have a guy jump n at the last minute. Now he’s a known quantity and if he campaigns as the actual nominee for the usual period instead of as the 3rd party guy for a few weeks he should do much better.

Tonight was a huge win for the GOP. The dems lost big in 2 Obama states including NJ. A state Obama personally went to and tied himself to Corzine.

If Hoffman and McDonnell had won but so did Corzine that would have been much better for the dems than what happened.

Health care has a much lesser chance of passing tonight than it did last night and that’s a huge victory for the GOP.


40 posted on 11/03/2009 10:14:37 PM PST by jeltz25
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